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 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Moved from Pages: 12mph

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 17:05 

Replies: 66
Views: 155250


cjb, didn't you know ""speed kills"" , it's the answer for everything.. the buy line was invented by a pr agency, and they the industry then made loads of money advertising the buy line.. cynical ? yep I am.. Honest law abiding member of the human race Yes..Fed up Yes. Cross Yes, & so cross I a...

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: Cycling forum doesn't like safespeed

 Post subject: Re: waste of time
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 17:00 

Replies: 17
Views: 16760


yeah i seen some of the other correspondance you had with them and it's blindingly obvious that they are not able to look at things from any other angle, just their own way. If you stapled the facts to their forehead they still would argue night is day. They are just a bunch of selfish tossers who ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Moved from Pages: 12mph

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 15:55 

Replies: 66
Views: 155250


I'm not trolling here or trying to wind people up, however the Anti-Scamera argument is not the flawless crystal castle of an argument some would like to believe. It may be a wonder to behold from the outisde perhaps, but I reserve the right to be the irritating twat who strolls inside and points o...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Moved from Pages: 12mph

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:13 

Replies: 66
Views: 155250


The pro-speed camera point of view is based on woolly thinking and appeals to emotion Three people a day die because of speed cameras, and three people a day will continue to die until they're all removed. We've got to get the message across urgently, and if that means hurting people's feeling then...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Moved from Pages: 12mph

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:07 

Replies: 66
Views: 155250


Ok, my turn to butt in here. One thing you guys have to accept is that there exists an opposing point of view to the one you choose to adopt, a point of view held by perfectly reasonable people, just as you see yourselves in fact. :) This point of view cannot be dismissed merely as shallow thinking...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Moved from Pages: 12mph

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 13:08 

Replies: 66
Views: 155250


I didn't get involved but that guy really wouldn't respond to basic reasoning. Let's hope he was telling the truth about giving up driving - the guy's so stupid that he's a disaster waiting to happen. It's so frustrating that the powers-that-be come down like a ton of bricks on safe drivers who dri...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What We Are Up Against

 Post subject: Not Losing My Temper
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:52 

Replies: 29
Views: 31245


I apologise for losing my temper and using immoderate language - I hope I wasn't playing into the hands of trolls like this "Guy Chapman". I get very wound up when these emotional hand-wringers can't argue with Paul's painstaking research and resort to personal insults, but I shouldn't let myself de...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What We Are Up Against

 Post subject: A Couple Of Other Things
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:47 

Replies: 29
Views: 31245


Guy Chapman, if you're reading this I've got a couple of other points to raise: A) According to your site, you say you don't believe the Government's "lies" about WMDs in Iraq, yet you believe every lie and distortion they come out with about speeding and speed cameras. Why ? B) According to the bes...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What We Are Up Against

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 17:15 

Replies: 29
Views: 31245


Gastobait, you've done a much better job than I could have at showing how this obeying-the-speed-limit-is-more-important-than-saving-lives tw@tt, but there's something I'd like to add: The Concentration Game Of the above arguments probably the most ludicrous is the idea that driving within the limit...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What We Are Up Against

 Post subject: What We Are Up Against
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:18 

Replies: 29
Views: 31245


I found this outrageous piece of f**king dangerous twaddle at http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk/ I'm working on a line-by-line rebuttal, but work is getting in the way :) This smug, complacent sh*tebag is just a example of the thinking behind speed cameras, and if you ask me, he's an accessory to th...
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