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Forum: General Chat Topic: Oh, the delicious irony! |
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 08:35
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Robin
Please try to follow one of Paul's core tenets - attack the argument, not the contributor.
I will decline from sinking to your level in my response. I will instead bask in the glow of my moral victory; anyone who is frightened to argue the points has lost the debate, and they know it.
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Oh, the delicious irony! |
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 22:09
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| Plenty of thought going on at this end old chap. The discussion was continuing; it had drifted away from the original post (thanks to a revival of the thread with premature celebrations for what is essentially an outpouring of political hot air) but it wasn't in favour of the party line. Other discu... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Oh, the delicious irony! |
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 09:19
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| What better proof of the parlous state of the "campaign" than the censorship of discussion. |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: The campaign is over |
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 13:20
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| I would suggest that the 6 point 'loading threshold' is somewhat arbitary. pretty much everyone will have 3 points on their licence at some point so to load at that would create civil unrest the pragmatic answer is therefore to load at 6. you don't have figures to support that opinion though. As I ... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: The campaign is over |
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:14
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| Okay, sorry if I took your name in vain but you're a hard one to pigeon hole ;) See, I'm big enough to apologise :bighand: Maybe I should have directed it towards the OP. For myself, I believe it’s more likely to be nearer 5% of bad drivers are causing >20% to get killed whilst scameras catch ~90% ... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: The campaign is over |
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:27
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| oh, Tone, Tone, Tone, You know I don't use that line in any of my posted opinions. In fact the only time I recall discussing that particular campaign was to say that it was misguided by ending in "It's 30 for a reason". IIRC my statement was something along the lines of " if it ends i... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: The campaign is over |
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 15:13
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| My concern for you Handy is that seizing on this comedy moment on Top Gear and using it as some sort of evidence that the removal of cameras will result in higher KSI's (and that by inference 'we' knew it all along) makes you look opportunist and more than a little desperate. Its rather embarassing... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: The campaign is over |
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 14:02
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| You must have a different definition of the word tenuous to the one I am familiar with. It's a direct statement - either scrapping speed cameras (as per the government petition) will make roads safer, or it won't. If it will, a concommitant change of driver behaviour should not be demanded. If it wo... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: The campaign is over |
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 13:09
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| to use the common internet parlance, "lol". Hard work? To know that this "campaign" calls for road safety improvements by scrapping cameras , and see three of the anti-speed-camera mouthpieces pleading for people to be extra careful when there is a chance [*] that some will be? I... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: The campaign is over |
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 09:42
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| This is only a ploy to obtain more leverage and try to keep more of the money. I'm surprised it's taken this long for someone to post this. The hot air from Swindon is all about getting more money, and nothing about any alleged or claimed "success" of this "campaign". Also, if a... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: zone alarm |
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:21
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Forum: General Chat Topic: HELP! Northbound on A34 around Oxford.... |
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:02
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is that the 40 stretch a couple of miles north of the Hinksey section?
I drove up last night, and again looked out for cameras - I saw the lines on the road, but no fixed cameras. |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: HELP! Northbound on A34 around Oxford.... |
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:44
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There were roadworks there up to about 12 months ago IIRC.
I drove down the A34 this morning and thought of you - I kept half an eye on the northbound carriageway through the 50mph stretch (when it was safe to do so, of course) and I didn't see a fixed camera at the locations you describe. |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Information overload |
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 00:06
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Forum: General Chat Topic: The campaign is over |
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:31
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| Point of clarification: AIUI the figures showed that c. 5% of accidents were caused by speed in excess of the posted limit, it does not mean that none of the ther 95% featured speed in excess of the posted limit. I'm afraid you understand it incorrectly. The figures show that under 5% of KSIs had s... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Totally Indefensible. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 16:45
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| Would you concede that the powers that be also enforce the confusion with travelling speed and the limt? A good example is the hit me at 40mph and there's an 80% chance I'll die, hit me at 30mph and there's an 80% chance I'll live advert. This clearly says that the limit will be the impact speed, w... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Totally Indefensible. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 09:59
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| His argument was flawed, however, as he had made the mistake of confusing (as many on here do, along with many of the "Type A" speed limit adherents) "limit" with "travelling speed". Handy, I think I know what you mean with this comment, but could you please clarify yo... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Totally Indefensible. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 09:53
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| ...which was evidenced by Mr. Mole's disbelief that the word "racing" could apply to anything but a competition, I did???? <snip> Still, I am indebted to you for solving a great mystery for me. I grew up near a mill race and until your sage words, I had always thought it a rather dull spo... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: The campaign is over |
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 21:49
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| This thread is getting like an old song (can't remember who sang it ) ,but I'll just modify it slightly -- "Big tone sitting on a wooden pier Come troll , swim troll , bite along here-" Unfortunately they fall off the hook just as we swing the club to knock some sense into them . :twisted... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Totally Indefensible. |
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 17:51
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| I favour variable limits in general. :shock: Someone slap me with a wet fish and call me Susan! I favour variable limits too! In fact - I use them all the time! Variable limits vary to suit the condtions and that my friend is exactly what Safe Speed is arguing. No it's not, you have the wrong impre... |
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