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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 15:23
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| For a good example of how to show press and PR events, look at my NEWS page: http://www.lingscars.com/news.php - I do a lot better than your whole organisation, current events at the top, colourful, readable, entertaining and emotional. It may not be to everyone's taste but it works. I move over £3... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 15:11
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| Well, after visiting the confusing SafeSpeed website, this is the best I found: Perhaps you didn't look hard enough: http://www.safespeed.org.uk/manifesto.html Yes, that's what I was referring to: Last updated 2004. Pre v1.0 4,700 words of claptrap that no one will read. A joke. Why not simply sort... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 13:18
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| Well, after visiting the confusing SafeSpeed website, this is the best I found: * To recognise, develop and enhance the contribution of "road user care" to road safety. * To ensure that monitoring and reporting of road safety matters are truthful, accurate and never misleading nor oversimp... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 13:52
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| The driver was an employee of the company you lease the vehicle from, he knew how much they would have charged for the lease of that vehicle on the terms under which my colleague was taking it, he told me to my face that it was less than you were being paid. While I did not verify his claim (I own ... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:32
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| Business a bit slow Ling? Is the plan to troll the Internet posting batsh*t-crazy nonsense to get your name out there? Do you think it'll bring in more suckers for you to fleece? I justify the 'fleece' comment with the case of my colleague, who leases a car from Ling (I found out about the pending ... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:22
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| By all means suggest a better slogan, just be mindful that this campaign doesn't call for a free-for-all (that's why your previous attempts were rejected). Yeah, I know. But that is what makes the succinct argument slogan hard. Not many people (outside Safe Speed, incl me) know what you want. Surel... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:17
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| But once again, you are arguing these qualified discussion points. Are the roads safer now? = YES. That's the way the argument is made, not some discussion taking into account loads of factors (like tyres, road surfaces, improved driving test, NCAP, ESC and brake assist, ambulances, helicopters, ai... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:00
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| Compared to the increase in traffic levels more people are seriously injured or die? I don't think so. The ratio is massively better these days, without even bothering to look it up. I'm sure someone will know that. Did you not understand my posting? Does the fact that less people are dying now, no... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:57
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| However, my point is that how can Safe Speed snappily summarise what it wants, compared to the snappily summarised "Think!" campaigns, "speed kills" etc. It seems you have a difficult message to get across that cannot be made in a couple of syllables. It's almost as if my posts ... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:51
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Compared to the increase in traffic levels more people are seriously injured or die?
I don't think so.
The ratio is massively better these days, without even bothering to look it up. I'm sure someone will know that. |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:31
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| Steve ""Contrary to some ill informed opinions we welcome properly set speed limits, and welcome speed limit enforcement when speed limits are exceeded in a way that causes danger. "" THAT is simply not saleable, in that it is imprecise, far too long (90% too long) and is about a... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:28
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| To assist Safe Speed, I will suggest that your greatest influence would be gained by a simple, short, coherent message and the branding and presentation of that. Not an argument of the "facts" (which you all love, but which the rest of human society finds incredibly tedious). You will all ... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:18
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| Well, thanks, graball... But a 33 year old survey when people used to drive without seatbelts and all the safety measures in today's cars, in what look to me like a range of noisy and old fashioned cars cannot be relied on. I did a quick Google on those energy saving speed limits (due to oil crisis?... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 07:44
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| I've read all the above, but I am still unclear what workable, easy to understand solution Safe Speed would replace the current rules with (even less clear how you would simply express it). The current rules are simple, clear and work well. As every driver has different abilities (as well as the veh... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 18:37
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| Ernst: "There is a world of difference in the Nazi SS logo, and the SafeSpeed logo, which is in the style and universal colours deployed in road signs all over the world." === Of course there is a massive difference, I agree. Your logo looks nothing like the swastika of course. I would nev... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 18:32
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| Mole: "But Ling, how can this be true?! If you look in the Highway Code, produced by the "thinking people in office" :wink: you will see that there is no difference in stopping distance at a given speed for a car, truck or van!" == hahaha, what anal arguments you make. Do you wan... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 18:27
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| I think it's clear from reading the above stuff that one of the biggest problems facing this organisation is the disparity of views. There wouldn't be much point having a discussion forum if the opposite were true, would there? No, what I mean is that Safe Speed has so many different opinions that ... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 14:49
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| ...and yet, when you look at the way enforcement is going, my view prevails! Amazing that in practice, it's my view (in general) that gets enacted, not SafeSpeed's views. Again, if you all just slow down a bit, your journeys will be less stressful, there will be less fatigue and you will arrive happ... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 07:44
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| Hello again Ling. So yet again: what is 'a bit'? Where should the line be drawn? Is 20mph ‘a bit’? Hello Steve :) Your point above is why SS people need to look in the mirror. If 99% of the population is told "can you slow down a bit", they understand exactly what "a bit" relate... |
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Forum: General Chat Topic: Compulsory speed limiters on new vans |
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 07:08
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| I think it's clear from reading the above stuff that one of the biggest problems facing this organisation is the disparity of views. You (in general, plural) also ignore common sense facts. Like (for instance) the person with the Range Rover ignoring the fact that their Sprinter could probably be ca... |
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