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Forum: Motorcycling Topic: IAM - New - Rider's Lines via Alan Dale |
| Grumpy Old Biker |
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 19:56
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| Editor Alan H Dale with Item TCP 298 REVISED Indeed, when some years ago I attempted to discuss the problem with IAM HQ, I was very firmly told that the Institute could not countenance temporarily breaking a speed limit in any circumstances, which means that diehards of their persuasion would rathe... |
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Forum: Brainstorming Topic: Coasting |
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 16:50
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| More recently, whilst taking some motorbike lessons, the same theme came up: coasting means you don’t have proper control of your vehicle. The clutch is a control... If used to control the vehicle, by definition, you must be in control of the vehicle, but like all the 'controls' it can be used well... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Are we losing the battle? |
| Grumpy Old Biker |
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:27
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| Hi Guys :hello: Been away from the Forums for a while, but not surprised to see the same old bollocks being talked about Speed Limits. Why is the blindingly obvious so difficult for some? Exceeding a Speed Limit is breaking the Law. Period. It has virtually nothing to do with Road Safety. Driving to... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
| Grumpy Old Biker |
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:07
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| Let’s be clear about this… I am not defending this man’s crass behaviour - I’m with everyone else on that. There is nothing he did which is remotely excusable. I am defending against knee-jerk reaction, which automatically couples his gross stupidity with dangerous driving. I know all the arguments ... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 23:05
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| Driving at a speed which is well within your capabilities and which you, based on your experience, consider to be safe, is vastly different from driving with both hands off the wheel, giving a thumbs up and with one's eyes and mind off the road. Or alternatively... Driving with both hands off the w... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
| Grumpy Old Biker |
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 20:54
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Thatsnews wrote: Grumpy Old Biker wrote: We’re debating whether this man was driving dangerously or simply being a jerk. I wouldn’t call that ‘splitting hairs’. I would argue it was possible he was doing both, potentially.
I think we've established that!  |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
| Grumpy Old Biker |
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 20:37
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| If we don't want drivers to take their hands off the wheel because it could be dangerous, then whether a one-off incident viewed as a snapshot in time actually is dangerous or simply the actions of a jerk is equally as irrelevant and therefore hair splitting. It's a big leap to suggest 'we' don't w... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
| Grumpy Old Biker |
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 13:41
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Rigpig wrote: Even if we do agree it wasn't highly risky, its still a 'hair splitting' argument contributing nothing to the road safety debate isn't it?
We’re debating whether this man was driving dangerously or simply being a jerk. I wouldn’t call that ‘splitting hairs’. |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
| Grumpy Old Biker |
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:00
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Thatsnews wrote: S**t happens. A lot of the s**t that happens is, despite what G.O.B. feels, unexpected.
Are you saying you constantly find unexpected things happening when you are driving?  |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
| Grumpy Old Biker |
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 23:21
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Thatsnews wrote: Grumpy Old Biker wrote: But maybe no useful message is better than a false message. Unless it causes noise and confusion. 
Please explain. And I hope it doesn't mean what I think it does. |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
| Grumpy Old Biker |
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 23:16
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Thatsnews wrote: You can quibble all you like.
Thanks. But I'm sorry if you think I'm 'quibbling'.
I am actually basing what I say on more than just a gut-feeling.
Thatsnews wrote: And FYI, speed is not necessarily a factor, here.
Thanks for the information, but I knew that. |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
| Grumpy Old Biker |
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 21:55
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Rigpig wrote: But look, supposing we agree that you are right, taking ones hands off the wheel isn't necessarily dangerous? Of what possible use could this information be in the wider context of road safety?
Probably none.
But maybe no useful message is better than a false message. |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
| Grumpy Old Biker |
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 20:57
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| What if -for example- a stray dog or a sleepwalking child had dashed across the road ... I'm sorry, but that's the sort of emotive statement I would expect from the DfT - or any other misguided, speed centric, authority. As I (failed) to explain before, things like that do not 'Just Happen'. This d... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 20:32
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| It does not matter how long the steam pipe had been corroding. It did not matter how long the mineshaft had been collapsing, and in a more recent example it did not matter how long the water main had been at risk of fracture. the event is something they had no prior knowledge of. An event unexpecte... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 20:19
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| Everything we do is be about handling 'risk' - not necessarily 'danger'. Risk is everywhere and we need to manage and control that riisk. When we drive, risk is always present and safe driving is an exercise in active risk management So, it's about levels of risk - not whether it's safe or dangerou... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 18:50
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| Holes don't just suddenly open up in front of us. Now, that's just not true. Well, anyone can 'snip' a post.... This is what I actually wrote- Holes don't just suddenly open up in front of us... There has to be underlying reasons for these things to happen and they will have taken time to develop. ... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 17:09
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| There's a common belief that we all drive at maximum capacity - we can't even smoke whilst driving coz we'll over-load. Nope, thats not it at all. When we (on this forum) hear of incidents where drivers have been caught doing something inadvisable behind the wheel of a car, someone will invariably ... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 16:03
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| Emergency situations don't 'just occur'. I've no doubt that if a 'situation' was developing, he wouldn't have done this. Right. So when my cousin was riding his bike and the engine blew up, unexpectedly, or when his mate was riding along and the road collapsed beneath his bike, or when a car had a ... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 18:09
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| Driving is about risk assessment. ... He would have made his risk assessment and known it was safe to do what he did. Being able to give a thumbs up to a Truvelo is not one of the risk assess checks criteria most out there would take into account when passing one If he wanted to stick his thumbs up... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Yorkshire officer done for having hands off wheel on 999 cal |
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 16:05
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| Emergency situations don't 'just occur'. I've no doubt that if a 'situation' was developing, he wouldn't have done this. Black ice on the road? He would not have prior warning for this. He would know if it was cold enough for there to be a risk of ice. Sudden blow -out? They can occur - How often? ... |
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