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 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 01:57 

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I was talking about high-ish profile debates, like the one we had on the radio on the issue of lane hogging, not forum threads! But I don't listen out for these things. So I wouldn't have been able to mention high-ish profile debates for either subject. I would suggest though that it's the issues o...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 01:19 

Replies: 426
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As I said before, I really don't know what forum you're talking about. :liar: Bombus, I really don't know how to get through to you on this. I genuinely, honestly, truthfully, have no idea what you're talking about. Really. Yes, really, really. It's not worth trying to have a debate with a petulant...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 00:41 

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I was talking about high-ish profile debates, like the one we had on the radio on the issue of lane hogging, not forum threads! What was your point about congestion being caused? Was it about others using the left lanes? I thought I had addressed that one. As for frustration: an unnecessarily low l...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 22:19 

Replies: 426
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Well I’m not going to get into a post slicing match (for the sake of others reading). The act of lane hogging is socially worse than exceeding the speed limit (on motorways anyway), supported by the fact that the majority of drivers exceed the speed limit yet comparatively very few persist with con...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 22:03 

Replies: 426
Views: 181582


So we come back to the fact that you know its wrong but do it anyway, simply because you perceive others are wrong in some of the other things they do. You're adding nothing to road safety, you're making things worse. What about those who criticise MLMs and don't themselves speed? Robin, you're doi...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 22:00 

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Yes I have but you have dismissed it because you see it as being a selfish reason. Anyway, why have you ignored my question? So you can't justify lane hogging, over and above the conclusion that doing so is lazy or antagonistic? Is this really your final answer? I have never really tried to say tha...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 21:52 

Replies: 426
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Reasons why hjeg1 is ignorant: He believes that a valid justification for a course of action is that disagreeing with it would be hypocrisy. Clue: being a hypocrite is not the same as being wrong . But in what way is being a hypocrite right then? People are still being hypocrites, and that itself i...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 21:20 

Replies: 426
Views: 181582


Can anyone think of any type of person who inconveniences as many people as lane hoggers? Thinking purely in terms of the number of people inconvenienced a day, anyone who's not in authority would have a real job matching the amount of constant frustration caused by a lane hogger. On a busy motorwa...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 20:51 

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Those who don't want to read my long, sliced posts - scroll past now! I really don't think that there will be any justification which you will accept That’s because you simply cannot justify it, except for reasons of selfishness (therein is your ‘psychological reasoning’). But what reason is there ...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 20:36 

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I love the fact that moron-in-chief hjeg1 can say: So now you're being arrogant! You think that I'm a moron except that you don't know me. Do you know what the word arrogant means? By the way, have you found out what the word "arrogant" means yet? Bombus clearly didn't know what the word ...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 02:25 

Replies: 426
Views: 181582


Can anyone think of any type of person who inconveniences as many people as lane hoggers? Thinking purely in terms of the number of people inconvenienced a day, anyone who's not in authority would have a real job matching the amount of constant frustration caused by a lane hogger. On a busy motorwa...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 02:20 

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One of these is deemed to be socially acceptable (if not necessary); the other is socially unacceptable (as well as not necessary). In your opinion! So why do you disagree? Don't just say you don't without any form of supporting arguments. Because I believe that more people are killed and seriously...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 02:06 

Replies: 426
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I really don't think that there will be any justification which you will accept That’s because you simply cannot justify it, except for reasons of selfishness (therein is your ‘psychological reasoning’). But what reason is there for people to break the speed limit apart from their own selfishness? ...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 01:55 

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I think that anyone who derives such smug satisfaction from frustrating and impeding other drivers quite possibly has mental issues of some sort. I wonder what scope there is for removing their driving licences for this reason (I've seen it on Police Camera Action ), and maybe even detaining them u...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 01:37 

Replies: 426
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So I have people moaning at me when I don't reply to every post, and then people moaning at me when I reply to as many posts as I can! Crazy! Who said that? I really can't remember but someone definitely said something to that effect. Well I’ve looked and didn’t see anything posted to that effect. ...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 01:10 

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You've completely missed the point of me coming on here, Cooperman. "All road regulations, Highway Code, etc, require and advise that drivers keep to the speed limit." … All I've been trying to do is get across to people on here that in most cases, if you are moaning about middle-lane hog...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 01:01 

Replies: 426
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no one: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/no+one noone: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/noone Nope, it's not in there. I'm right again. Try http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/noone oh look, it can be either. Happy days! Er, I've just looked at this link and it shows that it can be written in tw...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 00:44 

Replies: 426
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All road regulations, Highway Code, etc, require and advise that drivers keep the the left hand lane except when overtaking. Here we have a person who does not accept that those publications should apply to him and chooses to ignore them. You've completely missed the point of me coming on here, Coo...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 00:31 

Replies: 426
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what is your point? is it that speed kills? is it something else? is it that you just like to argue? do you agree that driving in L2 when L1 is free is bad practice? Why don't you just try reading through all the messages I've written. I have, I've failed to identfiy any rational arguement so i'm a...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: R2 Jeremy Vine: Middle Lane Morons

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 00:09 

Replies: 426
Views: 181582


So I have people moaning at me when I don't reply to every post, and then people moaning at me when I reply to as many posts as I can! Crazy! Who said that? I really can't remember but someone definitely said something to that effect. A critical point ahs been missed: no-one has yet managed to just...
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