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 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: How many mph

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 23:27 

Replies: 9
Views: 4677


I beleive Tyneside police have a zero tolerance thing going on and will give you a CO for 71 in a 70. I have never seen any evidence that anyone has been NIPed for less than 10%+2 over the limit apart from the infamous Lancashire cases which were dropped. My next door neighbour was NIP'd for 32 mph...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: help! speeding

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 23:21 

Replies: 27
Views: 11101


i think you'll be ok - the guidelines are set to 10% + 2 and i think everyone sticks to these as a minimum which would equate to: 79 mph in a 70 68 mph in a 60 57 mph in a 50 46 mph in a 40 35 mph in a 30 Unfortunately, some "partnership" areas are discarding this rule in favour of 1 mph over speed...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Case Won: dual carriageway LTI2020

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 23:12 

Replies: 78
Views: 36732


I'm surprised no-one has mentioned pepipoo on this thread. They may be able to help. There is also the fact that there is a bus in the photo. It is well documented that readings can be deflected from large vehicles when the intended target is smaller vehicles, especially if they are close together, ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Sky News poll, 70% say speed cameras do not save lives

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 23:46 

Replies: 22
Views: 9637


Ask the question the right way and you get the right ( i.e, the one you want) answer simply by phrasing the question the right way. You mean something like... Q1 Do you think that someone is more likely to die if you hit them in a car at a higher speed than a lower speed, all else being equal? Yes/...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Advert 12000 miles away.

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 23:28 

Replies: 7
Views: 3885


"Vehicle speeds have dropped in the last 12 months Deaths on our roads have dropped in the last 12 months You decide if they equate." How about a safe speed advert... "Number of speed cameras have increased in the last 12 months Deaths on our roads have increased in the last 12 months You decide if...

 Forum: Improving Road Safety   Topic: The safest drivers don't indicate

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:35 

Replies: 57
Views: 25628


I have recently sat (and passed) the IAM test. The only thing I was picked up on during the test was indicating too much. It was not seen as a big negative, only a minor. At the end of the day, the examiner said that it did no harm to indicate unnecessarily, but I think Paul's point is an excellent ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: SPEED CAMERA

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 22:34 

Replies: 23
Views: 10758


But your opinion that they are speeding is 50% of the evidence. If a non-constable can give their opinion, then what is to stop the accused stating that in their opinion they were not speeding? nothing, the evidence / results of the LTI is on tape, i can sit at a site I believe this has been discus...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: YOU MUST READ THIS. YOU COULDN'T MAKE IT UP

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 14:05 

Replies: 10
Views: 6288


The child is below the criminal age of responsibility anyway, so he couldn't be prosecuted even if he'd managed to steal a real car and driven it down the motorway at 150 mph.

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Dangerous thinking

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 13:40 

Replies: 12
Views: 5043


What is clear is that the illusion of danger does make people act in a safer manner. This is a trick that has often been used to make something safer. One common example is on fairground rides, where the rides may appear to be dangerous, but in fact they have a very good safety record, notably at fi...

 Forum: Improving Road Safety   Topic: Vehicle activated signs

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 14:27 

Replies: 52
Views: 28499


Does anyone know how much these signs cost to install? About £5,000 to install, then a small ongoing maintenance and electric cost. I just read in a local paper that the council had just opted for a VAS rather than a fixed speed camera at a certain site. No prizes for guessing which most people her...

 Forum: Improving Road Safety   Topic: Fatality outside my house

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 13:53 

Replies: 49
Views: 32641


I think we've lost the way in this thread somewhat. Safety should never be about apportioning blame. Indeed, apportioning blame acts, at best, as a smokescreen, and at worst as a barrier to improvements. Safety should be about learning the lessons, and trying to ensure that accidents don't happen ag...

 Forum: Improving Road Safety   Topic: Fatality outside my house

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 21:44 

Replies: 49
Views: 32641


This sounds like a perfect place for a high accident rate. And an ideal spot for a partnership to make some money without addressing the problem at all. No doubt the milk lorry was exceeding the speed limit, which will give them more reason to suggest it. There are very many places like this around ...

 Forum: Improving Road Safety   Topic: speed awareness courses

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 21:33 

Replies: 24
Views: 15724


As I understand it, vehicles have to be fitted with speedometers that are capable of measuring speed to within an accuracy of 10%. In other words, a car travelling at 30 mph, can have a speedometer reading anywhere between 27 and 33 mph. A car travelling at 33 mph could therefore have a speedometer...

 Forum: Improving Road Safety   Topic: speed awareness courses

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 19:15 

Replies: 24
Views: 15724


As I understand it, vehicles have to be fitted with speedometers that are capable of measuring speed to within an accuracy of 10%. In other words, a car travelling at 30 mph, can have a speedometer reading anywhere between 27 and 33 mph. A car travelling at 33 mph could therefore have a speedometer ...

 Forum: Campaigning   Topic: Tonight Yesterday...

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 21:12 

Replies: 41
Views: 33303


One of the 30 mph signs was defective, the other obscured. I wouldn't be bothered so much about whether camera signs were there or not, personally. In fact there was one of those there, but it's not much use if the speed limit is unclear.

 Forum: Campaigning   Topic: Tonight Yesterday...

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 23:30 

Replies: 41
Views: 33303


Yes, it was a 30 mph area - it was a restricted road, so I guess in some cases to be fair, it would be difficult, if not impossible to check all the signs. In this case, it would have been feasible, as there would have been only about 6-8 sets to check, and would have taken no more than about 10 min...

 Forum: Campaigning   Topic: Tonight Yesterday...

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 18:48 

Replies: 41
Views: 33303


Cam Op - not sure I understand the Q. or if it's directed to me. The one's that I passed last weren't checked.
My point was that the magistrates weren't at all interested in whether he lied under oath or not. On the other hand, if I had been shown to be lying...

 Forum: Campaigning   Topic: Tonight Yesterday...

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 15:46 

Replies: 41
Views: 33303


well if i say that the signs were present and correct at the start of enforcement and i had not checked them, subsequently i report someone for speeding and evidence shows that the signs were incorrect, i think one thing perverting the course of justice it works both ways Well this is exactly what ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: A77 - first three months of SPECS

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 13:00 

Replies: 29
Views: 11471


The use of cruise control in a 30 mph limit is precisely the outcome you should expect as a result of the current speed enforcement policy. The message is: Exceeding 30 mph is unsafe in a built-up area. You will be prosecuted if you are caught exceeding the limit. You should do everything you can to...

 Forum: Improving Road Safety   Topic: Sound Advice?

 Post subject: Re: Sound Advice?
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 13:34 

Replies: 3
Views: 3556


Driving too fast doesn’t necessarily mean going over the limit but driving at a speed that’s not safe for the road conditions. Now that does look like sound advice to me. In fact the most sensible thing a partnership spokesperson has said. But wait a minute, hmmm - isn't that what Paul et al. have ...
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