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 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speed camera operator sacked

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 09:44 

Replies: 16
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Funny that. The "Beam Spread" clips shown in the report were demonstrated with an actual UK Police Type Approved Lastec System with a trained Police Operator (PC Howard Fordham) using the device. Have a look at the clips for yourself! Mind you, ACPO would say that wouldn't they: Frank Garr...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speed camera operator sacked

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 21:03 

Replies: 16
Views: 7576


Maybe it's not the operator.

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=31246

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Police and Speeding

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 18:06 

Replies: 44
Views: 16817


And while I'm at it, here's another one. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3632859.stm Four cops driving back from the rugby. Driver gets done for speeding and tries to say he was chasing a criminal. Other cops in the car testify that he did not tell them about this. Nor did he tell the control centr...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Police and Speeding

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 18:04 

Replies: 44
Views: 16817


I tell you one thing...If someone like me is having 'anti-police' thoughts and views then the rift between the police and public must be dangerously wide. It is. I always used to co-operate with the police. In the past I've given up hours of my time to help them. Not any more. They lied in Court to...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Police and Speeding

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 17:59 

Replies: 44
Views: 16817


The Man wrote:
i still stand by my view that NOBODY deserves to lose their job because of speeding. NO WAY!


Er. The way we are going, if you are a lorry driver doing 100,000 miles per year, it will soon get to the point where it is inevitable where you lose your job.

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: 159mph cop may still get busted

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:31 

Replies: 16
Views: 7716


We are not immune from prosecution if we break laws tha knows! :roll: Come off it! Have a look at this! I have concrete, incontrovertible evidnce that a Police Officer lied in a witness statement, and then in Court. I also consider that there is plenty of concrete evidence that the expert witness f...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: One rule for them and one for us.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 18:32 

Replies: 11
Views: 5864


I contacted the scp to express my disgust, i gave them time date and partial registration number but apparentley they were unable to trace the operator as they apparently do not dictate where an operator operates ona day to day basis :o and they have a few vans with similar registration marks. This...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: Great Speed Gun Scandal

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:04 

Replies: 22
Views: 12005


In the Cardiff "Loose nuts and bolts" case: 1. The camera was not set up correctly. 2. It was not operated correctly. 3. Incorrect readings were obtained - even to the level of cars speeds being recorded in the wrong direction. 4. The police officer wrote a witness statement saying he checked the eq...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: Great Speed Gun Scandal

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 22:24 

Replies: 22
Views: 12005


SafeSpeed wrote:
anton wrote:
wiltshire have posted a press release.....


it's here: http://www.safetycameraswiltshire.co.uk ... ?newsid=95

Comments?


Sounds like a defensive response to a large number of phone calls from irate motorists asking for their money back to me.

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Daily Mail, LTi.2020 on the front page

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 18:15 

Replies: 60
Views: 29234


In actual fact the intensity information is retained. The returned power level is managed by means of pulse width measurement from the avalanche diode to ensure it’s not under or overdriven. Intensity is roughly inferred, but it’s certainly not measured, (and we agree that it plays no part in the m...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Daily Mail, LTi.2020 on the front page

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 17:42 

Replies: 60
Views: 29234


My poor head! Right I'm a chartered engineer but in the field of mud and concrete etc so to all intents and purposes a layman when it comes to lasers and the like. Can I attempt to clarify the issues with the dodgyscope. Three fundamental issues 1) Slip error, when the gun and sights are aligned co...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Daily Mail, LTi.2020 on the front page

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 17:39 

Replies: 60
Views: 29234


As well as detecting accelerations (by looking for deviation from a constant, predicted speed curve), the LTI 20.20 can detect panning errors by finding changes in returned signal strength. does this mean that a driver who sees a scamera and jumps hard on the brakes will generate an error on the de...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Daily Mail, LTi.2020 on the front page

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 17:38 

Replies: 60
Views: 29234


That's just splitting hairs though. They attempted a reading from the bike in the same way an operator would, and the speed, which was apparently from the bike, was recorded as 66mph. So in the only sense that is important, the bike was recorded at 66mph. Exactly right. And in this respect the bicy...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Daily Mail, LTi.2020 on the front page

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 17:36 

Replies: 60
Views: 29234


No. For whatever reason, you are missing my whole point. The Mail claimed to have “recorded the bike at 66mph” implying that slip must have occurred, but I am saying is that they could not have been measuring the bike at all (for whatever reason). The implication that "slip must have occurred" is y...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Inside Out

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 09:06 

Replies: 208
Views: 94296


Some countries (excluding the UK) allow a cosine error correction to be programmed into the equipment. If the correction is 'overdone' then it can work against the motorist. :shock: How does the device work out the angle involved? It doesn't. Someone programmes it in having done some dead reckoning...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Daily Mail, LTi.2020 on the front page

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 08:20 

Replies: 60
Views: 29234


I had already seen this on the BBC website. It is clear that Smeggy understands the general principle of the LTI 20.20, but he's not spot on. Here's an example: This signal is sent to a comparator (reference level adjustable for background levels and countermeasure noise), which removes the intensit...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Daily Mail, LTi.2020 on the front page

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 08:05 

Replies: 60
Views: 29234


Movement of the device isn't 'external' - it's an integral part of the measurement process. Why would you try to move the device to measure the speed of a wall? You have to point it at the wall. Yes and to obtain a reading of 44mph at that distance (63.6m) you also have to physcially MOVE the devic...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Daily Mail, LTi.2020 on the front page

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 07:57 

Replies: 60
Views: 29234


Your path theory is of course correct, That's not what you were saying, just a few posts ago is it? :wink: but you made some far assumptions (my reference remains with the bike test, but perhaps this could be applied to the car): Definitely it can be applied to the car. 1) The beam did not strike a...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Daily Mail, LTi.2020 on the front page

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 00:06 

Replies: 60
Views: 29234


SafeSpeed wrote:
Movement of the device isn't 'external' - it's an integral part of the measurement process.


Why would you try to move the device to measure the speed of a wall?

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Daily Mail, LTi.2020 on the front page

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 00:04 

Replies: 60
Views: 29234


I didn’t see anything closer than the bike in the picture (line of sight of the gun). Are you surprised by that? Surely anything moving at 66mph would have moved off picture by the time the operator moved out of the way of the device so a photograph could be taken. :lol: (I do incidentally agree th...
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