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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 13:23
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Paul,
You're a good man to reply to my trolling. I may not agree with what you're saying, but life would be much more boring without you.
I've got to go and pick up the kids now as the wife's away. I'll speak to you on Monday.
Have a great weekend
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:57
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| The traffic planner does not know the weather conditions, daylight or darkness, type of vehicle, behaviour of other road users, condition of the road surface and a thousand other things that drivers must account for. Well, when I last looked at the Highway Code (which was about 2 mins ago) on the w... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:42
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Quote: And that's the last reply you'll get from me UNLESS you deal with the central points of my replies
Help me Paul, list the outstanding points for me as they've been lost in this quagmire of discussion.
Then I'll get back to you.
Thanks for your patience.
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Forum: Brainstorming Topic: The Food Chain - Where I Rank Road Users by Etoile Brilliant |
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:37
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| Paul, forgive me if this is off-topic Well I promised to pin my colours to the mast. Subject to a few qualifications (disabled, emergency vehicles, etc): Motorways/Major A Roads 1. Buses (better use of transport density though not as good as trains) 2. Motorcycles (never ridden a motorbike but they ... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:31
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| I'd be happy to admit it if it were true. It isn't true. I don't need to falsify anything to win this argument - the facts speak for themselves and every new bit of data or science is confirming our position . Paul, Sincerely, I'm sorry to trouble you further but I forget to ask you this in my earl... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:58
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| The alternative is having zebra and pedestrian crossings at every road junction. Sweden, did this 4 years ago, with zebra crossings as close as 10m to each other. Whilst the initial results were poor (drivers weren't used to giving way to pedestrians), they have improved considerably and have in fa... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 16:31
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| I've been caught speeding twice and both times I deserved my points. What's changed in me, well its nothing altrusitic, in fact the reason's more selfish - I have 2 young children and the one thing that keeps me awake at night is not paedophiles or deadly diseases but the simple statistic that if m... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: if banned in UK, what other countries could i drive in? |
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 15:55
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| If you're banned in the UK, I would reasonably assume that you no longer have a VALID UK driving license. Lets assume that you want to drive in another EU country (say France). Under EU rules, you can drive in another member state providing (i) you have as VALID driving license from another member s... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 14:29
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| Do you believe FOREST, the association of tobacco companies too? Paul, since its you, I'll give you the time your position deserves. See if you can do the same with my question regarding the assertion one of your members made that "the IIHS is conflicted". No, in the case of FOREST, I would be extr... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 14:06
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| Look at it this way: In order to avoid the large chunk of tyre debris in L3 which is most important - adhering to the 70mph limit, or keeping a safe following distance, an awareness of potential escape routes, and good observation of the road ahead? Suddenly, the speed thing doesn't seem quite so i... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 13:42
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Quote: The faster you drive the greater the separation. The lower the risk
...and I thought "increased seperation due to increased speeds" was risk neutral.
Well you learn something new everyday. |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 13:38
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| Only if measured in terms of distance travelled. If measured by the number of journeys, it's a completely different story. (hint: we always intend completing a journey when we start out, whether it's in a car or plane, whether it's 1 mile or 10,000 miles) Agreed, but my purpose was to illustrate a ... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:59
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| The physics can't bite until a driver makes a mistake what about when driver's don't make "a mistake" but an encounters an event through no fault of his own: Here are a few examples, I've come across on UK motorways - a Renault 5 sitting in L3 with its headlights facing me - the remains of an HGV b... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:48
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| ...then this one came along!!! As my last piece of evidence, I offer a link to the IIHS. This is not some granola eating alternative transport group but the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety in the US. These are the people who pick up the pieces and pay the claims for all of us who have acciden... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:06
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| On its own, devoid of context, "speed kills" is a meaningless platitude that is also demonstrably untrue. Why is it that 100 mph on the M6Toll is "unsafe", while 600 mph in an airliner is "safe"? I'll try and make myself clearer this time. Pick up a book on "Risk" even the most simple one and you'l... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Tory candidate Blasts Labour on M4 Speed cameras |
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 22:12
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The ITV Teletext poll "Do you agree with Motorway Cameras?" or words to that effect, result today - YES 33% NO 67%.
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.......and you wonder why turkeys don't vote for Christmas
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 21:59
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| I'll finish for now and take a deep breath. One poster (a police officer) suggested: Q: I could talk to you all day about safe driving at 100mph. I could show you how it's done... Driving behaviours and attitudes have developed over the years, and the motorist/police/speed limit interaction has deve... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 20:12
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| Rewolf Writes Q: EtoileBrilliant, you need to read the description more carefully. was he said was that the vehicle was doing 100 or so when in clear road and that he slowed down to a 2 second gap when there was a vehicle in the way. UNQ: I reply (and I'm sorry to labour the point), what I'm concern... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 19:49
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| Apologies for the delay but I had to go home from work and feed the kids. I'll see how much damage I can do in the next hour before the football starts. First of all, I do have a personal agenda and that is speed kills - in whatever form you look at it. Coming to a site like this, I really didn't ex... |
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Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law Topic: Does speed kill? |
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 16:15
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| If the quote: "On the day in question, the driving and road conditions were good and I was part of a group of around 15 cars all doing around the same speed. "I considered that my manner of driving was safe."" was meant to indicate that he and the other 14 drivers were the total universe of drivers ... |
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