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I agree too...




...but I still can't help but think that we need to do something about this. The whole thing just has "load of bollocks" written all over it, and seems to have so many parallels with the great speed camera swindle that it seems like a huge missed opportunity not to link the two.

As for "looking after the future" I'd hate to think that by letting all this nonsense go on now I was thereby resigning my children to 40 years of crippling taxation, lost opportunity, and living in a regime bordering on "green totalitarianism".

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Ticketo ergo sum : I scam therefore I am!

Any way I believe the Daily Mail... If I drive down to the corner shops I will get eaten by a polar bear

Therefore I must pay gordon brown an extra £4000 a year?
These polar bears are running a realty nasty protection racket.....

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

So, in a democracy, what you do is vote out the party which has ideas opposed to yours. Who would you vote for out of the 3 major parties then?

The reason democracy is failing us and people are not voting at elections is that there is no choice. All the conviction politicians of yesteryear are gone and we just have centre ground poseurs who will say anything to get a vote.

You have no chance to start a new party with any meaningful chance of success. Just look at UKIP. They have the best supported single issue campaign with grassroots voters and cannot get anywhere.

What do we do? Emigrate.

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

unbelievable, isn't it?


Is anyone crazy enough to think that polar bears have only recently thought of eating just about anything that moves?

None of them, as they are all singing from the same songsheet.

It strikes me that after all these years of brainwashing about "Global Warming" all the major parties now realise that the majority of voters now believe in it, ergo it would be political suicide for any of them to go against that way of thinking, regardless of what the truth might actually be.

Ten years ago I'd have said "Never!", as I'm very patriotic and truly love my country, but there does reach a point where you start to wonder...

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CSCP Latin for beginners...
Ticketo ergo sum : I scam therefore I am!

I guess you have to decide whether campaigning to alter the perception of the public (and authorities) about road safety sits comfortably with entering the debate on global warming.

If you do the latter it could be construed that the former is not the true aim of the organisation.

Quite right. We're not going to be getting involved.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Ten minuite rule bill:
Ban international air travel without a permit, rebuild butlins, the cornish riviara, blackpool, bognor, the Isle of White. Plant the set aside land with trees or wind farms. Stop the wars, Re-call all enviromentalists to the UK. Train our own nurses and doctors, plumbers brickies and electricians.
After lunch we can organise duel weekly rubbish and recycling collection and cars bikes and busses can share the same road to save tarmac and aliminium signs. And we can move road tax to petrol.

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

I watched the Stern report launch conference on TV. And I realised -

It's a bloody religion. Believe and 'we will save you'. Fail to pay your tithes and you will send your children to hell. Do not argue - to argue is heresy.

And anyway - hasn't all religion been based on man attempting to communicate with the weather?

God is dead. Long live glodal warming.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

I heard a radio programme at the weekend on offsetting carbon emissions when you buy a landrover. You buy what appeared to be some trees in Scotland, from a company, when you buy your car and this will supposedly offset for 3 years your carbon. On investigation, the trees were already planted so you wern't paying for new planting just a guarantee that some trees will not be chopped down. Even then the landowners said they had no intention of cutting the trees down anyway. Sounded like one big con, with the middle company getting the profits.

I think it fair to say that the ABD website has a lot of info about global warming and the hysteria that has been whipped up.
There's only one solution- turn the sun off

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I walk I cycle I drive and I vote

This is where we can blame cameras

We have been praying to our gods that we didn't miss a mobile/specs/gatso
We have stopped praying to god for the right weather....
And look at the result

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

But seriously the 'religion' parallels are absolutely everywhere. I find it really quite disturbing. The more you look, the more obvious it gets. Almost all the news coverage fits the pattern.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

It might well be a con, although with their con they charge just £31 for the equivalent of a year's 4x4 emissions (on average mileage). And yet Richmond Council would have you believe the 4x4's emissions are worth £700+, while that prat Miliband wants to slap a couple of grand tax on them.

There's an online petition been set up about this at http://www.petitiononline.com/greentax/petition.html - I hope Paul doesn't mind me mentioning it here (by all means delete if inappropriate).

Please sign up to it and pass the link on if you agree with its sentiments. Thanks.

And when did any UK political party bypass the idea that some new theory was not an invitation to make brits guilty ,and then slap another tax on the country to make the voters feel that they had performed some act of absolution.

Henry V111 chased out the pope and payment for absolution of sins , to be replaced years later by a Labour Government determined to make us pay through the nose to absolve our crimes against any thing they thought fit.

What really winds me up about this is that we're not being given a choice. Labour, Lib Dems and Tories all have their snouts in the same trough on this.

Now there's a good argument for rule by referendum if ever there was one.

What really winds me up about this is that we're not being given a choice. Labour, Lib Dems and Tories all have their snouts in the same trough on this.

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Trouble is that as voters ,we have not put enough mustard in the trough to deter putting snouts in there

so called Global warming is a Natural Occurance, Do Politicians think we are all Stupid?

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Damn right they do.

At least the people aren't being fooled - even the BBC's Have Your Say, usually dominated by Guardianistas, is filled with anger about YET MORE taxes being dumped on us all.

The big problem is that all the main parties are now trying it on and the electorate just won't be given a choice on this issue.

How exactly do we rebel against this nonsense?

It's Guy Fawkes night on sunday