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Here's an excellent piece from Melanie Phillips:

The green shoots of reason

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

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Spot on!

It's absolutely political. Always has been.

Well, clearly. For instance, when Ahrennius identified the greenhouse effect circa 1896, is was clearly part of a personal crusade against mass SUV ownership.

Only problem - minor, I know - is that once we rip this effect out of the textbooks, calculations show that the temperature should be around -33 degrees centigrade. I must have missed the sodding great glacier on my lawn, wondered what was breaking the lawnmower blades.

if you'd looked a few (10?) thousand years ago you may have seen it.
I guess our SUVs caused it to melt.

Is it not the case with glaciers that when you are shown alarmist reports of huge chunks of ice breaking off it is to do with the ice GROWING into-eventually-warmer water rather than melting. I would have thought that melting would have caused the glacier to receed rather than grow into the ocean?

Has anyone noticed as well that anytime a news story is ran about ice breaking off it is ALWAYS during the spring break that happens naturally every year anyway (more to do with the ocean heating up and absorbing the glacier isn't it?). For northern hemisphere news stories around March/April/May and for Southern hemisphere Oct/Nov/Dec.

Interesting couple of stories here about reported growth in glaciers and cooler temps now being recorded, although cooling may not be part of any long term trend:

http://www.iceagenow.com/

Andrew

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Homer Simpson

I think you're confused.

Yes, there is a greenhouse effect.

Possibly there is climate change - I think there probably is.

Possibly the two are related - although I doubt it.

Possibly man is responsible - although I doubt it.

Possibly mankind could do something about it - although I doubt it.

But as sure as god made little apples, the UK cannot do anything about it itself. Even it we rejoined the stone age tomorrow, China alone would make up the difference in two years.

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The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

I wonder if consideration has been given to the fact that the sun is in a high activity cycle. In fact during the middle ages "little ice age", there were virtually no sun spots (a indicator of solar activity)

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My opinion:
Yes, there is a greenhouse effect. - Agreed as this has been proven

Possibly there is climate change - I'm not convinced as all proof seems to be based on computer models.

Possibly the two are related - I doubt it.

Possibly man is responsible - I seriously doubt it.

Possibly mankind could do something about it - definitely not.

Should we do all we can to reduce energy consumption without strangling the freedom of the individual - absolutely

Any effort mankind would use to stop climate change would be as effective as running the opposite direction to stop the world spinning.

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Why should I say anything ?
HE says it better than me. So there !

What a brilliant site! I just had to post on it...

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Aquila



Licat volare si super tergum aquila volat...

Everything in nature is a balance. One person in the so-called civilised world does more damage than a thousand in the third world.

Our planet cannot support six billion humans all aspiring to the western way of life and I don't need a scientist or a politician to tell me this. To me, the effect is self evident; depleting rain forest, extinction of animals and insects vital to our future etc. etc.. I only need to look at the small world around me to see how it has changed for the worse. Where there was once forest or a local wooded area there is now concrete, traffic and of course ever more people demanding ever more resources.

Nature doesn't do knee-jerk reactions so by the time we wise-up it's too late. As a race, we're not proactive and no-one EVER dares to suggest that maybe there are just too many people in the world sucking the life blood from our planet. It's political suicide to state this so once again we have just to wait for it to break before we try and fix it. Until then, we'll just keep plastering over the cracks I guess...

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

And it’s these third world people who end up being forced into our so-called civilised way of life.

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Absolutely right! Who gives up their way of life over here to go and live in a hut in Namibia? Very few, I'm sure.

Everyone wants a nice house with land, a car, a fridge, a TV, a flight to Florida once a year, and on and on… We use artificial, and often dangerous, means to grow more crops and abuse animals in our vulgar and selfish taste to provide more for the masses and profit. It's all about living in harmony with nature.

The crying shame is, if there were only a few million humans instead then we could all enjoy the spoils of modern life without upsetting the balance.

I'm not a hippie by the way

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

no we couldn't because our modern western lifestyle wouldn't exist without the "vulgar" capitalism and population that created it in the first place.

I agree but do we have to resign to our fate?

Pandora's box has been opened but can't you give me some hope?

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

yes, I can. People have been saying "we're doomed" since time immemorial. We're still here! Enjoy it.

Agreed

I feel a song coming on: -

There may be troubles ahead... But while there's moonlight and laughter and love and romance.... Let's face the music and dance... da daaa.. da da da dah.

Cheers

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

While the world could easily support a homo-sapiens population of 2-3-4 million people, *they* couldn't support themselves. NOT in the style we have come to expect. Nor anywhere near it. It takes many more than that to JUST extract oil and start the processing, never mind the rest of the industries that produce even the basic goods. In any case, some reckon it is too late anyway.

The only real solution which the 'greens' don't talk about:

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Man Made Climate Change is a Politically convenient theory.

It's 'an inspector calls' written large!

It will go the way of the other western 'leftist' trends. It will die and it will be replaced in about 20 yaers buy some new great crusade.