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Young lads don't buy these, preferring Saxo/206/Corsa etc.


which is why i wont touch anything like that. i dont like small cars (including hot hatches as apposed to small hatches with bodykits :lol: ) associated with boyish racers. i am currently looking at either a 3000/gto or galant VR4 although if anyone can recommend a fast jap car for small money then i am open to suggestions.

the old supra had problems with head gaskets which puts me off the newer one
the skyline R32 is ugly and the R33 is still a bit pricey. the 300ZX is not the prettiest car either. the S14 is a bit bland and the S15 is expensive
honda have the best reputation for reliability but what fast cars do they have other than a £20,000 NSX (the cheapest i have seen them)?
mazda have the RX7 but i dont fancy a car that needs an engine rebuild every 50,000 miles. sounds expensive
the soarer of choice would be the 2.5 twin turbo but i havent found any performance figures and its mainly auto and a bit bland
mitsi have EVOs (too expensive to run), the VR4 which is largely unknown and therefore cheap but rare. the FTO is the girls version of the GTO/3000GT which eliminates all but the VR4 or GTO. unfortuately the GTO seems to be popular in auto which i wont touch.

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Young lads don't buy these, preferring Saxo/206/Corsa etc.


which is why i wont touch anything like that. i dont like small cars (including hot hatches as apposed to small hatches with bodykits :lol: ) associated with boyish racers. i am currently looking at either a 3000/gto or galant VR4 although if anyone can recommend a fast jap car for small money then i am open to suggestions.

the old supra had problems with head gaskets which puts me off the newer one
the skyline R32 is ugly and the R33 is still a bit pricey. the 300ZX is not the prettiest car either. the S14 is a bit bland and the S15 is expensive
honda have the best reputation for reliability but what fast cars do they have other than a £20,000 NSX (the cheapest i have seen them)?
mazda have the RX7 but i dont fancy a car that needs an engine rebuild every 50,000 miles. sounds expensive
the soarer of choice would be the 2.5 twin turbo but i havent found any performance figures and its mainly auto and a bit bland
mitsi have EVOs (too expensive to run), the VR4 which is largely unknown and therefore cheap but rare. the FTO is the girls version of the GTO/3000GT which eliminates all but the VR4 or GTO. unfortuately the GTO seems to be popular in auto which i wont touch.


How about a twin turbo Subaru Legacy B4? All the advantages of owning an Impreza without the chav image plus better acceleration, better suspension and a car that actually looks nice.

I'm selling mine but it's a semi auto so you probably wouldn't be interested.

The GTO is a bit lardy for what it is, and apparently quite unreliable. Gallant VR4s are supposed to be nice, or for comedy value you could get a Legnum VR4 instead :)

Problem with Jap imports is they're all going to be 90% autos. It's what the market is like over there. Anything RWD and manual is likely to have been thrashed through the mountains by drifters these days too.


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i have had my galant for 2 years now. its only a 2 litre but its the most reliable car i have ever had. the clutch went after 6 weeks and a couple of bulbs have blown. i think thats it. it sailed through its MOT with only 2 observations. it has never failed to start and run. the GTO is supposed to be reliable too but then again, same maker

having done a little research this morning, the GTO in black is the one i would go for. although i would like the VR4, the prices are a little out of my budget. the model i want is the same as the one i have which means post 1996 whereas the GTO goes back to 1991. i dont really need a big car now so i could get the sports car without worrying too much about the boot space. all i really need is a holdall full of maps, my work bag and the odds and sods that you carry around in the car anyway ie windscreen wash, basic tools etc etc etc.

the biggest problem with my car is horrendous understeer in the wet. it has good handling in the dry but not wet roads although that could be down to the tyres. they are the same tyres that came with the car when i bought it so i dont know what they are. never looked at the make, only the pressures.

at the moment, i am looking for a GTO turbo in black with a manual gearbox. the later ones have a 6 speed but i think they will be too pricey for me. i will need a test drive though. all the research in the world wont help if i dont like driving the car in practice :D

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Or fixing my teeth..

Regarding comment above about Jap cars, I'd absolutely love an early NSX before they get too old, but my garage is Clio-size and I need a back seat.

They are great value at £20k and very reliable BUT the servicing costs are apparently terrifying, I'm told £1000 every 6000 miles....


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the old supra had problems with head gaskets which puts me off the newer one


The MKIII (pop up headlights) suffered CHG issues due to a badly translated build manual apparently, (I know, I had one and it was a money pit!), but the problem was resolved on the MKIV's. The later Supras are very very reliable and very very tuneable.

I've got a cheap Calibra for sale if you were interested!!! :idea: :lol:

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I emphasise that you cannot nominate a genre/manufacturer etc. You must nominate a single model. And give reasons.


BMW X5. Because they seem to drive about 2 feet behind your rear bumper, regardless of conditions or speed, even if they don't want to overtake.

4x4s driven on the school run with one scrawny child in the back and mummy on the mobile, with the road coming 4th or 5th on mummy's priorities.


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Andy,

I think you may not have quite the right idea about numpty cars.

The X5 and other 4x4s may be poorly driven but IMO don't qualify as numpty vehicles.

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40 everywhere/parallel park forwards/no indicators/no reversing on country lanes/covered in charity stickers and minor dents


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That sounds like a bus :lol:

Edit: are the charity stickers those adverts for "no fee solicitors"

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One comment about Jap cars ( and it's for those old enough to remember the days when we had Austin/Morris/MG/Riley versions of vehicles ---Japanese manufacturers made British car makers fit heaters and radios as standard :roll: :roll: (Remember those days ??)

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Yes, but I will not thank Pacific Rim manufacturers for foisting cars like the Ssangyong Rodius on us.


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Yes, but I will not thank Pacific Rim manufacturers for foisting cars like the Ssangyong Rodius on us.


OH, BTW - those inscrutable oriental gents wil have the last laff- WIFF THE LOVER :roll: ( well how do you think the can say Rover)

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All Saab drivers (any model) seem keen on tailgating.


As the driver of a Saab 9-3 Aero HOT Cabrio ("old shape") - I take deep exception to these remarks:

Yokel - I never tailgate


To every rule, there is always an exception. In this case it looks as if it's you, Prof. :D

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Yokel wrote:
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All Saab drivers (any model) seem keen on tailgating.


As the driver of a Saab 9-3 Aero HOT Cabrio ("old shape") - I take deep exception to these remarks:

Yokel - I never tailgate


To every rule, there is always an exception. In this case it looks as if it's you, Prof. :D


Maybe they don't tailgate other Saabs! When I tailgated it's never a Saab - often it's an Audi, VW Passat or Beemer though

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possibly a thread diversion ...

it's now common for Japanese cars to be described as the pinnacle for quality over, say, German cars. What's the view on Korean cars? I ask, because we now have a Korean fleet at home - a 2.9 diesel Kia Sedona and a 2.7 V6 Hyundai Coupe. I steered clear of Korean cars for some years, but when my wife chose the Sedona, I have to admit to being pretty impressed with the quality of the thing. It's obvious that it's been built to a budget (lower grade plastics), but it feels solid and has been nothing but reliable (compared to my German saloon, that had started refusing to turn the engine over after less than 6 months, and took 18 months to diagnose).

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possibly a thread diversion ...

it's now common for Japanese cars to be described as the pinnacle for quality over, say, German cars. What's the view on Korean cars? I ask, because we now have a Korean fleet at home - a 2.9 diesel Kia Sedona and a 2.7 V6 Hyundai Coupe. I steered clear of Korean cars for some years, but when my wife chose the Sedona, I have to admit to being pretty impressed with the quality of the thing. It's obvious that it's been built to a budget (lower grade plastics), but it feels solid and has been nothing but reliable (compared to my German saloon, that had started refusing to turn the engine over after less than 6 months, and took 18 months to diagnose).


most of the hyundais are superceded mitsubishi models, eg santa fe is a mkII pajero/shogun, as they've already ironed out all the bugs during the models lifespan so long as they're put together properly they ought to be some of the most reliable vehicles on the road...

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possibly a thread diversion ...

it's now common for Japanese cars to be described as the pinnacle for quality over, say, German cars. What's the view on Korean cars? I ask, because we now have a Korean fleet at home - a 2.9 diesel Kia Sedona and a 2.7 V6 Hyundai Coupe. I steered clear of Korean cars for some years, but when my wife chose the Sedona, I have to admit to being pretty impressed with the quality of the thing. It's obvious that it's been built to a budget (lower grade plastics), but it feels solid and has been nothing but reliable (compared to my German saloon, that had started refusing to turn the engine over after less than 6 months, and took 18 months to diagnose).


most of the hyundais are superceded mitsubishi models, eg santa fe is a mkII pajero/shogun, as they've already ironed out all the bugs during the models lifespan so long as they're put together properly they ought to be some of the most reliable vehicles on the road...


Ahh. Are they?

Do they buy the tooling from the Japanese factories?

In which case beware tired tooling.

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possibly a thread diversion ...

it's now common for Japanese cars to be described as the pinnacle for quality over, say, German cars. What's the view on Korean cars? I ask, because we now have a Korean fleet at home - a 2.9 diesel Kia Sedona and a 2.7 V6 Hyundai Coupe. I steered clear of Korean cars for some years, but when my wife chose the Sedona, I have to admit to being pretty impressed with the quality of the thing. It's obvious that it's been built to a budget (lower grade plastics), but it feels solid and has been nothing but reliable (compared to my German saloon, that had started refusing to turn the engine over after less than 6 months, and took 18 months to diagnose).


I once drove a Kia Pride. Complete misnomer. It's a biscuit tin on wheels. I saw the aftermath of one which collided with a pigeon - they had to right the Kia off. It reminded me of the old Skoda jokes, of which we all know at least three)

I know it's not a specific model but my numpty vote goes to anything that says 'Taxi'.

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Okay then, I can't resist. For all thoses younger viewers who wern't on the scene in the 80's…

What do you call a Skoda with a long radio aerial?
A dodgem!

Why do skodas have a rear wash wipe ?
To remove the flies that crash into them.

How do you double the value of a Skoda ?
Fill the tank !

What do you call a Skoda with a sun roof ?
A skip!

What do you call a Skoda with a ladder on the roof ?
A wheelbarrow!

What's the difference between getting out of a Skoda and getting out of a sheep?
You don't get so embarrassed if someone sees you getting out of a sheep.

What's the difference between a Jehovah Witness and a Skoda?
You can shut the door on a Jehovah Witness!

Why do Skoda's have a heated rear window?
To keep your hands warm, while you push it.

How do you overtake a Skoda ?
Run!

:lol:

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