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Why does nobody think there could be a genuine mistake here!!!!!!!


1. i knew about it exactly one week before the NIP to me was typed
2. the agency did in fact tell them that i wasnt driving that day when they requested my details


as an obvious employee (or employer!!!) at pollocks, you may think that they have a good reputation. possibly with VOSA (dunno) but definately not with anyone else. the company name has cropped up countless times but not once has it been for a positive reason. the high turnover of drivers says it all. the fact that licences are not checked doesnt say much for them either.

other than an admittedly personal vendetta, there is another reason to pursue this one. how many other drivers have they done this to or could do it to in the future? my loyalties are with the drivers and when something like this crops up, it must be stopped. it is an injustice with potentially serious consequences and they cant be allowed to get away with it. in this particular case, they picked the most stubborn and uncompassionate SOB to play with. it wont cause the company to go under but at least it might teach them to respect drivers a bit more and make them realise that we are not as thick as pig droppings

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are you asking me? why would i have one


Yes I'm asking you, you clearly have one!


i dont have an agenda i am only stating there are 2 sides to every story. Has "Scania" actually phoned Pollock to ask them what is going on? He says he spoke to the agency but if he is not getting answers there he should phone the company boss direct ask them what is going on.


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why would i want to phone pollocks? what answers do i need?

they phoned the agency for my details
the agency told them i wasnt working there that day
they filled my details on the NIP anyway

clear cut as far as i am concerned therefore i dont have any questions to ask

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he can prove him self innocent easily by asking the agency who employed him to confirm this, he does not need to start his one man vendetta against a company he obvioulsy dislikes for what ever reason but.........this is not what the argument is about anymore. This chap has obviously got it in for a company and is using this as an excuse to try and see them punished. Lets hope he fails and does not put any more pressure on companies who employ 100's of people and work in a heavily regulated industry where life is tough enough for them as it is.


I had to duck when I read your post due to the anger and vitriol flying form the page!

If I was Scanny I would firstly defend my speeding/s172 then deal with any revenge against the haulage company after that.

I'd be pretty miffed if i was in his shoes, it could be an innocent mistake, but maybe it's not. If I felt that I had been deliberately 'set up', however, rest assured I'd find a way to teach them a lesson.

Personally I think his reaction is strong but I don't sense a 'vendetta' do you work for said company per chance?


There is no anger or venom coming from me, i am not the one who is trying to lead a one man crusade to throw dirt at a company's name. And no i dont work for this company but i have worked for sevaral haulage companies and have had dealings with Pollock. Admiteddly there are a lot of cowboys out there but unfortunately for Scania if he thinks Pollock are one he is way off the mark!


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why would i want to phone pollocks? what answers do i need?

they phoned the agency for my details
the agency told them i wasnt working there that day
they filled my details on the NIP anyway

clear cut as far as i am concerned therefore i dont have any questions to ask


so you believe what the agency is telling you?????????


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yes i do. i have worked for agencies in various parts of the uk and this is easily one of the best. if they werent, i wouldnt be working for them and i certainly wouldnt recommend them to other drivers. i am very loyal and i expect it in return. if i suspect i am being stuffed, i walk away. i have seen that agency turn clients away because they mistreated drivers. that is rare and says a lot for them. however, i may be wrong and i will be speaking to them later on today IN PERSON to ask what exactly happened and to find out exactly why they gave my address out. they know what im like and they wont be prepared since they dont know i am popping in. prior warning defeats the purpose of putting someone on the spot

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BOB999 wrote:
Why on earth would they want to "set up" an agency driver or even protect one of his own companies drivers when he has probably never met or seen most of them.
A good question. The problem is that this does happen.
I see quite a few in court, and its reasonable to suppose that there are more which go to other courts and others that don't get to court at all.


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Why on earth would they want to "set up" an agency driver or even protect one of his own companies drivers when he has probably never met or seen most of them.
A good question. The problem is that this does happen.
I see quite a few in court, and its reasonable to suppose that there are more which go to other courts and others that don't get to court at all.


but surely you win these court cases as i would have thought it would be easy to prove. I cant beleive there are many cases of innocent people getting points unless they are aware of what is going on ...which i know happens


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BOB999 wrote:
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Why on earth would they want to "set up" an agency driver or even protect one of his own companies drivers when he has probably never met or seen most of them.
A good question. The problem is that this does happen.
I see quite a few in court, and its reasonable to suppose that there are more which go to other courts and others that don't get to court at all.


but surely you win these court cases...


Fisherman doesn't 'win' - because he is a magistrate!. :)

(I appreciate that you wouldn't have known that...)

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I have removed two duplicate posts from this thread.

BOB999, please do not post the same thing twice in different threads. Once is enough.

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ok but then surely one of the threads should be removed altogether for they are basically the same thread. The reason i posted on both threads was because this should be the final comment on both of the them and the matter put to bed!!...but hey your the boss!!!


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Does winning the case really make up for the hassle, and stress, of having to fight it in the first place.

You clearly have no experience of the system if you think it does!


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