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 Post subject: Re: Police State?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 18:18 
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David Icke has something quite interesting to say about not rioting. His argument is that if the people take to the streets then the police state will be imposed and that is basically part of the plan of the ruling classes. The global economic crisis was deliberately engineered to cause such strife and send people out onto the streets. It's his March newsletter.

The police state has already been imposed.
The various terrorism acts.
The coroners and justice bill.
The ignoring of the human rights court on destruction of DNA where the donor was not prosecuted, or even arrested.
It just has to be finalised.
It may even be a state in which there will be no politicians, just civil "servants" giving orders. The police chiefs are already civil "servants".
We may be the slaves of the new order, but the politicians we have now will certainly not be WHERE they are now, they will be at the bottom of the stack.

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56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 20:04 
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My advice is to drive more slowly. If everyone drove nice and slowly, there would be no need at all for speed limits.
My main enemy is speeders, because they cause speed limits (and cameras).


If you believe that then you really are naive. But I don't think even you believe that, you're just being provocative.

If people all drove really slowly, the accidents would still happen, because as we've endlessly discussed (though after all this time, you've never grasped it) speeding is only a very minor contributor to accident numbers.

But, as lowering speed limits is the primary (only?) road safety technique at the moment, the limits will be lowered further, the accidents will still be happening, etc., etc..

Nurse: The medicine isn't working!
Doctor: double the dose!
Nurse: The medicine isn't working!
Doctor: double the dose!
Nurse: The medicine isn't working!
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Nurse: The medicine isn't working!
Doctor: double the dose!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 08:55 
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From this page:- Hegelian Dialetic

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The current world situation was deliberately created by elitist power more or less by manipulation of 'right' and 'left' elements. Over the past 100 years or so they've developed both right and left elements to bring about a NWO. Right-left situations have been deliberately created and then placed in conflict mode to bring about a synthesis.


Just an idea. What would happen if everybody just keep voting the same government in? Would they run out of synthesises? or was their aim to bring about a one government state in the UK. If that's the case then the UK should down tools and just concentrate on looking after one another don't pay your taxes, and to "hell" with the government. :)

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A recession always brings out the merchant in people.
Anyone noticed how easy it is to get jobs done for "cash" now ?
No invoice, no receipt...no tax !

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56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 15:40 
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A recession always brings out the merchant in people.
Anyone noticed how easy it is to get jobs done for "cash" now ?
No invoice, no receipt...no tax !


We all have to pay tax and I’ve got no problem with paying tax, as long as my taxes are used for the right purpose and for the benefit of the UK population. But when the government start taking the P$ss you cannot blame people for not wanting to pay tax.

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I was going to put this link in the thread about the motorist being pulled for laughing but, as it is just one more incident to add to the advancement of our police state I decided to place it here.

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Once again you need an open mind when reading this stuff. Whether we should believe it or not, I couldn't say.

It appears that our masters don’t like the fact that we can, and should enjoy ourselves, it goes against their way of thinking. :wink:

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I t is interesting to note that in this so-called police state a young women can assault a cabinet minister and not be arrested for so doing.

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I t is interesting to note that in this so-called police state a young women can assault a cabinet minister and not be arrested for so doing.

I do not know whether I am being cynical or paranoid. The arrest of the protester for assault would result in thousand of pounds in costs that could not be recovered. A fixed penalty for anything requires little actual monetary expenditure once the initial set up costs have been recovered. But the rewards after that period can be substantial, ask Westminster council about MC parking.


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Administrative justice is just what the Government want. No tiresome having to prove someone guilty, just a fine sent through the post.

Just the ticket.

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Also arresting or finning the protester allows a political view contrary to the governments more time in the public eye. The protester will certainly fight any censure the government seeks for this assault.


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Also arresting or finning the protester allows a political view contrary to the governments more time in the public eye. The protester will certainly fight any censure the government seeks for this assault.


Leila Deen seems to have got more than a fair share of media exposure for her views despite not being charged.

Much as I hate the scum bag I have to admire the aplomb with which Mandleson shrugged off the attack.

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Leila Deen seems to have got more than a fair share of media exposure for her views despite not being charged.

I agree. However by choosing not to pursue her the government will not be forced to answer awkward questions.

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Much as I hate the scum bag I have to admire the aplomb with which Mandleson shrugged off the attack.

It is his usual tactic. Ignore everything bad hoping the mud doesn't stick. Luckily for us the custard did :lol:


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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/06/police-surveillance-protesters-journalists-climate-kingsnorth

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As long a you are protesting respectfully don't let them frighten you. We are supposed to be a democratic country.


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 Post subject: Re: Police State?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 18:57 
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Well.
Since the police can now arrest you for ANY offence AT ALL, you may like to reconsider.
ANY offence...even farting, if it may cause offence.
Even shouting at a police officer, or photographing one.
And since they could easily refused the FOA request, using security as an excuse, you may like to think about the reason for complying ?

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/PowersofArrest/

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More common sense from out friend and ally, George Monbiot!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... e-payments


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