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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 23:00 
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I would write to the C/C and ask when the Stasi were trained to use the equipment they have been given and who trained them.


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Those in road safety have to be trained every so often by the supplying company for such equipment so the accuracy will not be acceptable in law. Ask if you can observe how they calibrate the gun prior to opreations,


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Go over and ask the same of those who are operating the speed trap. As you say, they are a bl--dy nosey set of old timers who don't even know how to cross a road. OLLIE


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Also, ask if the volunteers have been given any public liability insurance cover.


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One presumes that having written such a letter you will not be surprised when the anti-discrim gestapo arrive ?
And the radar guns they use do not seem to be those that the police use.

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ollie wrote:
I would write to the C/C and ask when the Stasi were trained to use the equipment they have been given and who trained them.


CPO'S would train them

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Those in road safety have to be trained every so often by the supplying company for such equipment so the accuracy will not be acceptable in law. Ask if you can observe how they calibrate the gun prior to opreations,


please do

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Go over and ask the same of those who are operating the speed trap. As you say, they are a bl--dy nosey set of old timers who don't even know how to cross a road. OLLIE


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Please stay in Wales. Which SCP would have the time to train such folks. It would not be COST EFFECTIVE with time and resources being being cut to the bone. Thats why cameras have replaced the RPUs that used to be respected in days gone by and which are not seen for many a day, week, month, or year and why there are so many out there under the influence of drugs and alcohol. -Quote from Derbyshire police road safety report.--
Drug driving is difficult to prove and thought to be under recorded nationally. Anecdotal evidence suggests that it is an increasing problem,particularly among drivers between 17 and 25 years old.

There you have it. Its not a cost effective option to persue those type of drivers but it is for speeding with cameras as it is VERY COST EFFECTIVE.OLLIE


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 19:27 
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ollie wrote:
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ollie wrote:
I would write to the C/C and ask when the Stasi were trained to use the equipment they have been given and who trained them.


CPO'S would train them

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Those in road safety have to be trained every so often by the supplying company for such equipment so the accuracy will not be acceptable in law. Ask if you can observe how they calibrate the gun prior to opreations,


please do

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Go over and ask the same of those who are operating the speed trap. As you say, they are a bl--dy nosey set of old timers who don't even know how to cross a road. OLLIE


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Please stay in Wales.


??? does wales operate CSW

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Which SCP would have the time to train such folks. It would not be COST EFFECTIVE with time and resources being being cut to the bone.


plenty i have trained a few

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Thats why cameras have replaced the RPUs that used to be respected in days gone by and which are not seen for many a day, week, month, or year and why there are so many out there under the influence of drugs and alcohol.


i know they are all on roadwars

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 21:14 
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ollie wrote:
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ollie wrote:
I would write to the C/C and ask when the Stasi were trained to use the equipment they have been given and who trained them.


CPO'S would train them

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Those in road safety have to be trained every so often by the supplying company for such equipment so the accuracy will not be acceptable in law. Ask if you can observe how they calibrate the gun prior to opreations,


please do

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Go over and ask the same of those who are operating the speed trap. As you say, they are a bl--dy nosey set of old timers who don't even know how to cross a road. OLLIE


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The road wars you quote are no doubt due to the fact that the RPUs are in decreasing numbers and there's no one left to control the roads. Why do so many risk being undetected when drinking. Because there are fewer RPUs out on the roads.OLLIE

Please stay in Wales.


??? does wales operate CSW

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Which SCP would have the time to train such folks. It would not be COST EFFECTIVE with time and resources being being cut to the bone.


plenty i have trained a few

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Thats why cameras have replaced the RPUs that used to be respected in days gone by and which are not seen for many a day, week, month, or year and why there are so many out there under the influence of drugs and alcohol.


i know they are all on roadwars


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Hi All, Im back from Germany with bad news. I was totally wrong when I said they did not use citizens to trap fellow neighbours with speed guns. Actually its far worse in Germany. It turns out that any bunch of local "people" can band together to raise funds for their own local community use by trapping their fellow neighbours with speed guns. In Germany you can actually buy or rent a speed trap gun from a private company directly.....and they, not the police, are qualified to "train" you. Then when they have caught a bunch of their fellow citizens they can write to them DIRECTLY demanding a fine providing they have only exceeded the limit by a small amount. These speeding offences dont attract points until excessive speed is a problem. In this case the Stasi cannot fine the individual they have to tell the police. The German police can then, on the verbal say-so of the Stasi, fine the speeder and also put points on his licence. Furthermore any money collected by the Stasi from people who are just over the speed limit can then be used for local projects such as a new swimming pool or a tennis court etc. Its really a great incentive to raise cash! I asked my German colleagues how this worked without blood on the streets and they replied with amazement that of course it would be doubtful that a local would shop a local and would only say they were speeding say slightly just to get a few ££ for the community to use and it would be doubtful that they would get the Police involved if points were goping to be awarded. However over here a different stort with the traffic taliban gunning everyone for maximum profits. Be aware this is what will come here unless we stop this thing. :drink2:


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This is a fundamental difference between the Germans and the British.

The British generally do not like "grasses" (I could use some stronger words here) whereas the Germans generally believe in obeying the orders of authority and reporting transgressors. They did a lot of this some years ago. The British authorities cannot rely on too much help from the public here and thus have to bring in huge official spying schemes to control their populace.

Hence the situation which you report in your post.

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 20:34 
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Please stay in Wales. Which SCP would have the time to train such folks.


via ollies logical deduction he suggests i used to work in wales, why because i have a link in my sig http://www.cerysedwards.co.uk/, cerys edwards is a welsh name :scratchchin: , so i work in wales, but alas cerys edwards is from Sutton Colefield
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/12/23/tougher-jail-terms-set-for-dangerous-drivers-as-cerys-law-is-passed-115875-21917090/
Tougher jail terms set for dangerous drivers as Cerys’ Law is passed

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Tougher jail terms for road maniacs who injure victims will be announced today – in a victory for a Mirror campaign.

Cerys’ Law comes after 11-month-old Cerys Edwards was paralysed by a 70mph lout in a 30mph zone who served just six months. Dangerous drivers could now face five-year sentences rather than a maximum of two. Justice Secretary Jack Straw phoned Cerys’ parents Tracey and Gareth last night to tell them of the new crackdown.

Gareth, 43, said: “I am thrilled. It’s a proud moment for us and I’d like to thank the Mirror for its support.”

And he said of crash driver Antonio Boparan: “He as good as killed Cerys.

“Sadly the law wasn’t in place to give him the sentence he deserved, but we had to fight for change for Cerys.

“It’s been a long hard battle but it’s been worth it.

“I hope this acts as a strong deterrent to stop motorists putting others in danger.”

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Boparan was 19 when he ploughed into Tracey and Gareth’s car at 70mph on the wrong side of the road in Sutton Coldfield, West Mids, in November 2006.

Their daughter – now aged four – was left paralysed, brain-damaged, unable to breathe without a ventilator and still needs 24-hour care.

Boparan, whose parents are worth £130million, was given 21 months’ jail for dangerous driving last year but was freed in six.

Around 13,500 appalled Mirror readers signed a petition – handed into No10 – backing the Edwards’ demand for tougher punishment for motorists who seriously injure without killing. Dangerous drivers who cause death face up to 14 years’ jail.

Mr Straw said last night: “I applaud Cerys’ parents, who have made such a powerful case for longer jail sentences.

“It is hearing the terrible experiences of people whose lives have been devastated like this that directly informed my decision.

“It is only right that courts should be able to send drivers who seriously injure another person by driving recklessly to jail for longer. Thanks to the Mirror for highlighting such an important cause.”

The law change will come in force after the next election.[/quote]

well done sherlock :loco: :loco: :loco: :loco: :loco: :loco: and Dickie Bird is an albatross :lol: :roll:

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...Boparan was 19 when he ploughed into Tracey and Gareth’s car at 70mph on the wrong side of the road in Sutton Coldfield, West Mids, in November 2006.


Cameras working well, then... :roll:


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Do you know what it might be a good idea to do next time nosey neighbours are out with the "community speed gun" ? Well how about this: if you see one of them pointing what probably looks like a firearm , then ring 999 and say someone is standing at the roadside pointing a gun at the traffic!! After all, how can you possibly know it's a radar gun and not a firearm??? Then hopefully an Armed Response Unit will come racing to the scene with their Heckler And Koch's drawn. They might order the gun operator to spreadeagle on the floor until they realise what's happened. Wonder what would happen then eh? Think we would see an end to nosey neighbours volunteering to operate speed guns!!!


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