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The work of the main LTI 20-20 expert - Dr Gezari

Postby trakgalvis on Thu Jul 29, 2010 14:16

If you are a scientist, make sure you are sitting, before following the link below:

[0912.3934] Lunar Laser Ranging Test of the Invariance of c http://tinyurl.com/37p294z

After reading that, how do you feel about this chap saying the LTI 20-20 is working OK?
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Postby dcbwhaley on Thu Jul 29, 2010 17:29

Was the lunar ranging done with a LVi 20-20?.
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Postby trakgalvis on Thu Jul 29, 2010 17:54

dcbwhaley wrote:Was the lunar ranging done with a LVi 20-20?.


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Postby dcbwhaley on Thu Jul 29, 2010 17:56

trakgalvis wrote:
dcbwhaley wrote:Was the lunar ranging done with a LVi 20-20?.


:)

I'll take that as a "no" then.
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Re: The work of the main LTI 20-20 expert - Dr Gezari

Postby trakgalvis on Thu Jul 29, 2010 17:58

dcbwhaley wrote:
trakgalvis wrote:
dcbwhaley wrote:Was the lunar ranging done with a LVi 20-20?.


:)

I'll take that as a "no" then.


... though "yes" would make a better story.
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Re: The work of the main LTI 20-20 expert - Dr Gezari

Postby Pete317 on Thu Jul 29, 2010 18:02

trakgalvis wrote:If you are a scientist, make sure you are sitting, before following the link below:

[0912.3934] Lunar Laser Ranging Test of the Invariance of c http://tinyurl.com/37p294z

After reading that, how do you feel about this chap saying the LTI 20-20 is working OK?


Interesting, although it will only become very interesting if the experiment proves to be repeatable by others.
If this is validated then it's going to throw a lot of other theories out of the window.
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Postby trakgalvis on Thu Jul 29, 2010 18:46

Pete317 wrote:
trakgalvis wrote:If you are a scientist, make sure you are sitting, before following the link below:

[0912.3934] Lunar Laser Ranging Test of the Invariance of c http://tinyurl.com/37p294z

After reading that, how do you feel about this chap saying the LTI 20-20 is working OK?


Interesting, although it will only become very interesting if the experiment proves to be repeatable by others.
If this is validated then it's going to throw a lot of other theories out of the window.


So do you think this work might be correct?!!! :)
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Postby Steve on Thu Jul 29, 2010 19:00

Makes you wonder how GPS systems ever worked!
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Re: The work of the main LTI 20-20 expert - Dr Gezari

Postby Pete317 on Thu Jul 29, 2010 19:02

trakgalvis wrote:So do you think this work might be correct?!!! :)


No, actually I'm highly sceptical of anything which suggests that we may need to turn some of our laws of physics upside down.
However, if it's actually proven to be correct then it'll be a different story altogether - I'm just not holding my breath :wink:
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Postby trakgalvis on Fri Jul 30, 2010 05:50

Pete317 wrote:
trakgalvis wrote:So do you think this work might be correct?!!! :)


No, actually I'm highly sceptical of anything which suggests that we may need to turn some of our laws of physics upside down.
However, if it's actually proven to be correct then it'll be a different story altogether - I'm just not holding my breath :wink:


if this were right, it would be big news by now. :)

I do wonder, though, if the LTI 20-20 industry regret using this person as their expert.
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Postby Pete317 on Fri Jul 30, 2010 15:06

OTOH, and not necessarily saying or implying anything about this particular case, just because someone is wrong about one thing doesn't imply that they're wrong about something else.
Having said that, I do strongly believe that this particular gentleman is wrong on both counts.
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Postby trakgalvis on Fri Jul 30, 2010 15:11

Pete317 wrote:OTOH, and not necessarily saying or implying anything about this particular case, just because someone is wrong about one thing doesn't imply that they're wrong about something else.
Having said that, I do strongly believe that this particular gentleman is wrong on both counts.


It is true that we all make errors, and an error in one place does not imply an error elsewhere. However, this is the mother of all errors, and should worry you about other work, I would suggest. Note, he does seem to think that most of modern physics is very wrong.

Also, he is considered an expert on the LTI 20-20 because of his research in the area.
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Re: The work of the main LTI 20-20 expert - Dr Gezari

Postby Pete317 on Fri Jul 30, 2010 15:30

I wasn't disagreeing with you :)
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Postby trakgalvis on Fri Jul 30, 2010 15:33

Pete317 wrote:I wasn't disagreeing with you :)


I know. I just wanted it to be clear to the non-scientists here!
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Postby Pete317 on Fri Jul 30, 2010 16:01

trakgalvis wrote:I know. I just wanted it to be clear to the non-scientists here!


Who would they be? 8-)
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