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Umm, but surely the sensible option would have been to fill it up at the end of the journey rather than at a motorway service station for some extortionate amount.

It was on the M6 not too far away from the Thelwall viaduct so not exactly cheap petrol or near a camp+caravan site.

That's what comes of paying low wages - you get low IQ's!!
They are always supposed to ask "Which pump" and "unleaded = £XXX?" which the customer is supposed to be able to relate to his/her transaction!

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Ahh yes, reminds me of a Total garage where the sticker claimed that SUL was 98 RON. I queried this, "Is super unleaded really still 98 octane here?" "it's 91.9 mate" "nono, I'm talking about octane rating not the price" "91.9, which pump mate", "oh never mind, pump 3"

Doesn't matter now, they're rolling out something called Excellium and it's almost as crap as BP Ultimate.

They were given the pump number. I filled the car and the wife went to pay (to save time ) so she didn't know exactly how much had gone in.

I aught to put my hand up to going to fill the car up then finding I had no money or plastic with me.

I agree Homer - as I said, LOW IQ!! The garage where I work occasionally, employed one lad, who I had the pleasure (?) of helping train. I recommended he be given the chop ASAP, as I personally would not have let him operate a shoe shine stand, but he was kept on.
One morning after opening up, he managed to lock himself out of the shop - a trick he repeated a couple of weeks later.
This was a rural site, with a long walk to the nearest telephone!!

Lack of funds is actually an offence. However, I am glad to report that on the site where I worked, there was a system in place which allows you to leave without the police being involved, providing you have some form of ID, and a plausible excuse. It has been abused in the past - one joker in Huddersfield tried to claim it wasnt him that left the address, and was surprised to find I had recorded his reg. number, description of car including the none standard alloys, AND his description, all of which were verified by the local BiB!!
His excuse was he had left early in the morning (true) and had left his wallet on his girlfriends bedside table. Not good in my book if you live in Huddersfield, and are contemplating returning home from Cumbria without it! I'd have gone back for it!

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I've done the lack of payment thing too, filled up and then realised my wallet was missing, searched all over the car and no sign of it

No police involvement, they just got the manager, manager asked if I knew anyone else with a credit card, I phoned my GF and they did a cardholder not present transaction using her details, problem solved.

Later I had to do an emergency stop and my wallet hit my ankle

Yep at about 3 in the morning , no other vehicles on the motorway site - mi driving a large transit with firms logo on all side and wearing fleece with firms logo "which pump?" says muppet. Ialways reply "about £xx of diesel"and muppet suddenly finds im only one in .Mind you BIB could walk in from highly visible car with hi viz over uniform and this muppet would still ask "waaat pump"

Mind you - must give out bouquet to corley services - they see fleece and van and say "yours is the ????transit at pump x ?" - they know - but are making certain.

I always have the pump number, and I have a fuel card that works at BP and Total garages. My car runs like a bag of crap on BP Ultimate so I try to fill up with Total SUL where possible, the other day it wasn't so I put 4 litres in just to get me to the correct garage.

I tell him that I'm at pump 10 and he doesn't beleive me and tries to charge me for another one that's got 40 quid on it. I tell him that's wrong and he looks at me like I'm an idiot and tries to charge me for the other pump again, I insist and he eventually asks which car is mine and I reply "that one, the purple Subaru parked next to the pump with the huge number 10 on it, with the number plate that matches the one printed on the card I've just given you" and he still doesn't beleive me until checking the number plate against the card.

Then after swiping my card he asks me for my reg number!

Where do they find these people?

Re: the smoking post.
I was on a forecourt one hot summer day, tipping my 36000l of petrol when a car pulled up at the pumps. (This was an old-fashioned station where the attendant served you!) The car had all it's windows open, and the driver had a lit cigarette in his mouth. I asked him to put it out and he told me to "F++k off!" I asked the attendant not to serve him, which she agreed to, upon which he threw the lit cigarette on the ground between the pumps, slammed his car into gear and shot off! I can only think that the fuel/air ratio was too rich to ignite, but I've never been as scared in my life.

BTW, the car driver was a bus driver!!!!!!!

That's easy.
You put an ad up in the Job Center, and every uneducated, ill mannered oik who really only wants to spend the rest of their days sponging off the state, gets told their benefits will get turned off if they dont apply.

Once they realise it's difficult to fiddle the till, they do their utmost to get sacked, so they can lie in every morning once again!!

I once placed an ad for a workshop assistant with sheet metal experience - to train as an engraver. I got applications via the job centre from people who's only hands-on experience of a piece of metal was their cutlery!
One lad thought a Guillotine was a continental form of measurement!
If they have licenses, they get to be van delivery drivers with ANC or Interlink!!
My URGENT order of materials arrived at 4.55 pm, and had to be collected by the customer the following morning. So much for a before 12.00 delivery!

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I don't get it.
So drivers are spectacularly selfish.
And for some of you this is 'news'?

No more so than the news of what you do with your tailpipe!

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I've told you before about that diet. Tell me - are cyclists any better? You know the ones who ride on pavements and so on.....

Had one of these just the other day - in town. I was on the pavement and Transo had half the pavement up - so it was single file for pedestrians and one nearly had me in the trenches there. No bell, no warning - just pushed past me. I hurt my leg and needed a stitch. Not driving for a few days as it's my braking leg - Wildy is dropping me off.

Could not report the little tosser - and he was wearing lycra... so not some casual cyclist.

Now I find that very inconsiderate and since our pet troll here who sucks his doo-dahs is on about selfish drivers - perhaps he may care to elucidate on why this does not apply to some cyclists.

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Let's not rise to the smelly bait here. It should be obvious to everyone that there are selfish people using all transport modes.

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It seems there are a lot of us who use more than one.
Could this lead to a better standard of driving/riding/cycling, when one understands the problem from both sides?

I am sure I am a lot more considerate to cyclists than other motorists who have cut me up - and a lot more critical of idiotic cyclists too.

It was mooted that cyclists should take a test - which I heartily agree with, even as a part time cyclist!

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Seconded


I find I see things from both sides because of riding and driving a lot - and give cyclists a great deal of space and time - and but riding on paths or not giving way to a pedestrian is extremely selfish, inconsiderate and discourteous to say the least - and that applies to drivers who fail to stop when they see bloke (usually me) waiting patiently at the kerb. in the vague hope some one might just stop and let me across.

Sorry Paul....know one should not rise - but my leg is still throbbing after this. I did not even see it or hear it. First I knew of this guy was when his tyre struck the back of leg. He then told me, rudely, that I was in his way, as he squeezed past me - and I nearly fell into the trench cut by the gas workers. That's the trouble with bikes - you do not hear them approaching from behind you - and I have yet to meet one who will either shout or ring a bell - apart from me and I'll bet Ernest is the only other bloke I've seen doing this. - I assume that was you - in the Windermere area - about three weeks ago when we had some nice weather

Guy was not on a supermarket/chain store cheapo either and he was dressed in normal cycling gear. If he'd been a car driver - it would be a hit and fail to to report an accident - and book would rightly be thrown at him. This guy actually injured me as my leg is bruised, required three stitches and is preventing me from playing golf, and has meant that I have not been able to perform my work properly as I can only hobble so far. - and made it impossible for me to drive my car as I would not be able to react as quickly given the pain in my leg. Was reported tothe police even though they cannot trace the guy. But the fact I was treated for an injury following an "accident with a cyclist" will be added, presumably, to the statistic records!

Now I see cycling on a pavement as a very selfish act. I can forgive and understand children - but adult cyclists should not be on pavements - and if they need to be for any reason - then they should wheel the bike.

Does not matter how you travel - courtesy and consideration are just as key to safe practices as the rest of the COAST keys - and I cannot find an excuse for a any cyclist to be riding on a pavement nor any excuse for any cyclist not to slow or stop if a person happens to walking in front of him.

The pet troll comes across as of silly cyclist mentality in any case. Thank goodness there are guys like Peyote and Cyclist - else I'd be really worried.

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I've knocked a cyclist over (as a pedestrian) once. I was walking along the (wide) pavement on Hampstead Road in Camden, along the middle of the pavement, then walked to the kerb ready to cross at the crossing. Cyclist coming up behind me, swerved, fell off, very angry. No sympathy from me!

I have also almost hit a couple (at the same crossing) who, although using the road instead of the pavement, felt that the red lights didn't apply to them.

Mad moggie, you can have my knocked down cyclist to make up for your injury. I don't make a habit of walking into cyclists (in fact, I actively try to avoid it, having an aversion to scraping bits of hard metal against myself) so I hope you realise how important this gift is.

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We have the unenviable task of sharing a footpath, with pedestrians AND horses.
I have an airhorn on my bike, which although excellent at sounding a warning, it is NOT the thing to use behind a horse!! There's enough "debris" on the footpath from horses, which gets quite liquid when wet, and comes up off your wheels!
I usually flick the brake leavers under such circumstances, so the clicking attracts attention, and slow right down - I would'nt want the fraulein in the saddle to get mad at me with that whip in her hand!!

I did'nt know you enjoyed GOLF! I'd enjoy the walk - I just cant see the point of poking a ball around on the way!
Try this link - http://www.heritage-golf.co.uk They are becoming good friends of mine! Check out the pictures on how they make the clubs!
http://www.heritage-golf.co.uk/workshop.asp

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Nor do I make a habit of walking into things. This footpath had narrowed because of some works being carried out. It was more or less single file and the road had no traffic on it. No "excuse" for him to be on the pavement at all in any case. I never even heard him approach until he struck my leg and then bulldozed his way past me. Ironically - it was 12 months to the day of my sister-in-law's adventure with a horse and two cyclists. Hope this is not another cycle of episodes ....still - I'm healing and it has been nice to have Wild purring more attention on me.... - am playing and milking the "hobbling hubby" for all it's worth - she even stirs my tea for me.

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Smily to penny.. penny to pound
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But the real message? SMILE.. GO ON ! DO IT! and the world will smile with you!
Enjoy life! You only have the one bite at it.

It's horrible when it gets wet and then in heavy rain it sort of sprays up at you as well - liguid dung and stuff.




. I have an old fashioned bell on the handlebars so's I can ring and brake at same time....







I went to St Andrews Uni - was great for golf. One of the reasons for choosing to study there. You have not lived - it's a precision skilled game and you get out in the fresh air. It's great. Have a decent handicap too.

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Smilies are contagious
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We use our smilies on YOU today
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It makes folk wonder just what you REALLY got up to last night!

Smily to penny.. penny to pound
safespeed prospers-smiles all round! !
But the real message? SMILE.. GO ON ! DO IT! and the world will smile with you!
Enjoy life! You only have the one bite at it.