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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 18:39 
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I forgot to add that night the police officer pulled me that I saw him pottering at smack on 30 on what should be a 40mph dual carriageway in Sheffield and it was 3am on Saturday night coming back from social visit at moms 70 miles away. So I thought I'll pass him in the middle lane as I didn’t want to daudle behind him for 2 miles missing all the light changes. Hes just winding down at end of his shift. And besides my little engine wont pull fourth at a milk float 30mph. So i was only "speeding" to allow me to use fourth gear (i've got a fifth by the way) and save petrol (you know that stuff thats taxed to death) There was just me and him on the road. He wont pull me for that I thought. But suprisingly he did within moments of looking at my rear. I mean if i had hung back behind him he would have been more suspicious as if i dont want to be identified. Clearly this illustrates these upholders of the law (for who again?) must have an outdated bible and they follow it brainwashed likely even in their own cars off duty. Just not normal people are they. Maybe this is why he pulled me as I've probably cruised past his family day trip at a constant 40mph before and hes been waiting eagerly till hes in his panda and stalks upand down the main commuter routes instead of seeing if people are being burgled on estates. He couldn’t charge me with speeding as I only did it for a few yards to get round him and give him space before slowing down to about 33 when I got in front in case he took a reference point. This move on him must have tickled him as he seemed to appreciate i had in effect "brought it on sooner rather than later" and his main focus was on if i had a drink or not. I mean if I had would i have honestly gone in front of a cop car? Dont they teach officers common sense with their diet of rigid laws and cynicism? I've noticed in my Fourteen years on the road that cops also slow to look through shop windows and up side streets and even stop abrubtly u-turning with no warning and if i am behind them i might crash up their boot so I thought safer in front. So whats the point of pulling me at all as he didn't have any intention of seeing if i'd stay at 40 because he pulled me when he realised i was holding it between 30 & 40 to show how silly the limit is when theres nothing on the road. I told him I knew it was a 30 so spoilt his suprise. There was no producer handed out or check tyres like they are so fond of doing. I mean their projected paranoia induced looking over your shoulder syndrome mind control didn’t save princess diana (for example). So why pester expendable nobodys like me? I like living and freedom so i can look after myself and others thank-you without an overbearing nanny nitpicking. Why did he pull me - its because they don’t do it for safety they do it to keep you under the thumb. We are living in a totalitarian society (eg speed cameras). No-one tipped the police off saying a drunk driver (Princess Diana's driver i'm on about now) was about to go out on the road when they left the Ritz in paris (They did instead lye in wait for some nobody in sheffield with a red t-shirt on beneath a suit jacket driving a red rover on traffic cops though a few nights ago and the tipped off officer pounced on him). So i'm thinking all this when my police man asked me, when I was about to walk away with my "keep it down" advice, "Have you had a drink?" to which I said "no" and I breathed in his face and yes he actually sniffed it !

Heres another one. A few nights ago I saw an officer on a dual carriageway at 1am and I was cruising at 80 and being overtook being in only a J-reg. And then I had to brake to let them in - because the "officer" was in front showing us how if you have cruise control (and nowhere to go) you can stay smack on 70mph. And no-one had the bottle to go round him to get away from the stink of starched shirts and visions of condescending school talks on safety. We all followed like obedient fluffy ducklings behind their mummy. Which is nice to watch on a pond but who was appreciating this convoy? I had a solitary pint an hour before and i bet thats why everyone else was hiding safely behind. a watered down pint and i felt like a major baddy.

This shows we exist in a totalitarian zero tolerance facist Britain and Blair is a tin-pot dictator whos lost his arm band. You will all realise this when you are in your early 30's which is worryingly early. I mean in the US they have sabriety tests (amusing I know) for drink driving. But here it’s a "have you had A drink" A Drink that implies just one well who hasn't to calm their nerves on our congested roads. one time I got pulled a year ago I had two pints (woopee) just enough to put a smile on my face then chatted the rest of the night. Then I dropped someone off and on way home saw a panda car opposite me at the junction and he decided to come my way being the only car on the road and then rear mirror full of blue flashing. "we're pulling everything tonight" the driver said. "Have you had a drink" and as i was burping lager I had to admit I had. The officer in the passenger seat was already fitting a tube on their gadget while I was walking to the patrol car to greet the driver (why is it the driver that gets out? Strange) Had a breath test (might have been three pints) and it didn’t even show any alchohol at all. So my question is should I now reply "no I haven’t" meaning that I haven’t had enough to light up any silly lights?

I have a clean licence and never sinned on the road - apart from allegedly overtaking on double white lines 5 years ago. I refused the fixed penalty of 3 points and a £30 fine and chose instead to go to court to get justice. Where I got it thrown out of court "case not proven" were the magistrates words. And the usher said it was unusual but then I did film the road beforehand to later play in the court asking the unprepared officer exactly where I started the move and he couldn’t say. Me and my then girlfriend shot the film a few days before my court appearence at 7:30am and it helped my case when my girlfriend (who was driving while i spielberged) was unexpectedly overtook by two cars within 5 minutes abrubtly interupting a quiet calm Sunday morning flick and I caught them on tape. The judge smiled when the cars overtook at speed and jokingly said "can you pause that". So this proved to them that overtaking does happen as well as highlighting police officers lie about things like where double white lines start. I didn’t have a solicitor. A solicitor I spoke to said just admit it. I represented meself. So you see even the help that’s out there is controlled by the same totalitarian mentality.

Going to court and if you like "getting off" has had more of a positive effect. I feel like I'd be letting that lovely old judge down if I did something out of the usual follow the leader routine. Plus the law would love to even the score. Some people would think "ha ha I fought the law and I won" and do more cheeky things thinking untouchable. Only if I had got endorsed would I have done more naughty things under the belief that I am scum so I may as well live up to it.

This place drives normal people mad while the real villains get away with it (in other peoples cars!)


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 23:50 
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Cruiser You cannot be serious!
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cruiser wrote:
I forgot to add that night the police officer pulled me that I saw him pottering at smack on 30 on what should be a 40mph dual carriageway in Sheffield and it was 3am on Saturday night coming back from social visit at moms 70 miles away. So I thought I'll pass him in the middle lane as I didn’t want to daudle behind him for 2 miles missing all the light changes. Hes just winding down at end of his shift.


After hard day chasing criminals at unbelievable speeds somehow I find it soooo strangely relaxing to pootle down a road at 27mph!

cruise control \"whinger wrote:
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And besides my little engine wont pull fourth at a milk float 30mph. So i was only "speeding" to allow me to use fourth gear (i've got a fifth by the way) and save petrol (you know that stuff thats taxed to death)


Third gear works quite nicely - and guess what - it is quite economical too! Especially if you are driving behind a police car :wink:

cruiser who whinges on a bit! wrote:
Clearly this illustrates these upholders of the law (for who again?) must have an outdated bible and they follow it brainwashed likely even in their own cars off duty. Just not normal people are they.


Personally - I think practising archery after church on a Sunday is quite normal behaviour! Who are you calling "not normal" :wink: My cousins think I am mad putting archery before track days and golf matches - but each to his own sense of madness! :wink:

cruiser who goes off on one a bit wrote:
. This move on him must have tickled him as he seemed to appreciate i had in effect "brought it on sooner rather than later" and his main focus was on if i had a drink or not. I mean if I had would i have honestly gone in front of a cop car? Dont they teach officers common sense with their diet of rigid laws and cynicism?


Was "speeding up above 30mph in 30mph zone" in front your brand of common sense? Thought this was kind of daft behaviour reserved for politicians and moronic minor celebs!


cruiser who is definitely what my \"basingwerk\" describes as \"thumb in bum wrote:
I've noticed in my Fourteen years on the road that cops also slow to look through shop windows and up side streets and even stop abrubtly u-turning with no warning


Funny - every member of this family does use the shop window reflection - sometimes they just help your vision of on-coming traffic - and a well placed one -- enables you to get best field of vision around a bend or blind corner! How strange that we use them as a further hazard perception tool?
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And then of course - there is off chance we might cop a shoplifter or till snatcher legging it out of the shop! :roll: and up side streets.... well .... burglars do burgle houses up side streets --- and joy riders nick cars parked up side streets - you never know! :roll:

cruiser who appears to be cruising with brain disengaged here! wrote:
No-one tipped the police off saying a drunk driver (Princess Diana's driver i'm on about now) was about to go out on the road when they left the Ritz in paris


No-one expected the late Princess's driver to be drunk on duty! He was supposed to be a professional!

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(They did instead lye in wait for some nobody in sheffield with a red t-shirt on beneath a suit jacket driving a red rover on traffic cops though a few nights ago and the tipped off officer pounced on him).


Man was a recidivist drink driver = and his attitude down the nick was priceless. Had some like that myself! Difficult to keep your face straight! :lol: :lol: :lol:

cruiser who appears to be a daft lad here wrote:
So i'm thinking all this when my police man asked me, when I was about to walk away with my "keep it down" advice, "Have you had a drink?" to which I said "no" and I breathed in his face and yes he actually sniffed it !


If you suffered from hallitosis - I would would have done you for assault! :wink: Not kidding - sometimes it knocks you backwards - worse than dog breath on a bad day! And if you had a bad cold - and given it to me by doing this - I would have thought of something to do you for!

cruiser wrote:
Heres another one. A few nights ago I saw an officer on a dual carriageway at 1am and I was cruising at 80 and being overtook being in only a J-reg. And then I had to brake to let them in - because the "officer" was in front showing us how if you have cruise control (and nowhere to go) you can stay smack on 70mph. And no-one had the bottle to go round him to get away from the stink of starched shirts and visions of condescending school talks on safety
.

You definitely would not like my particular brand of acid when I get my mouth "in gear" then! :wink:

cruiser"
I had two pints (woopee) just enough to put a smile on my face then chatted the rest of the night. Then I dropped someone off and on way home saw a panda car opposite me at the junction and he decided to come my way being the only car on the road and then rear mirror full of blue flashing. "we're pulling everything tonight" the driver said. "Have you had a drink" and as i was burping lager I had to admit I had. [/quote]

Well - we do pull everyone on a blitz. Would you rather we let people get away with drink driving? Then collide with your car ?


[quote="cruiser who feels need to vent his spleen"]
The officer in the passenger seat was already fitting a tube on their gadget while I was walking to the patrol car to greet the driver (why is it the driver that gets out? Strange)[/quote]

Well - I am certainly not going to get into passenger seat of civilian car!
For all I know - person in that car could be gun toting maniac (and we did lose colleague in Leeds on Boxing Day last - routine and he got shot at point blank range. I have had knives and guns pulled on me in the past - I can assure you that it is a most scary experience! And person in that car could driv off with me in it - to some dark place too! That is why you get into back of cop car! "Safer" for all of us!

[quote="cruiser wrote:
Had a breath test (might have been three pints) and it didn’t even show any alchohol at all. So my question is should I now reply "no I haven’t" meaning that I haven’t had enough to light up any silly lights?


We are all individuals and metabolisms are different!

cruiser who feels need to get things off his chest! wrote:
....asking the unprepared officer exactly where I started the move and he couldn’t say.


Our paperwork is as much on trial as defendant! Can guarantee you would not have caught me unprepared at court - and if you were guilty you would have been found to be so - if pulled by me or my lads! :wink:


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