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I pay less and tend to write them off (not crash them!) I just run them until they're dead and break them - trying to get a similar one in better condition so I can keep the good parts off my previous one as spares. The one I'm about to break now cost me £300 about 8 years ago. Can't say I haven't had my money's worth! The one I got to replace it is much tidier, but cost me £600. Trouble is, that model hasn't been produced for over 10 years now and this will almost certainly be my last one as they're getting too rare.

Until train fares become a lot cheaper you can forget it as a realistic concept. For someone who is on a low income like me they are not an option. Once last year I did take a train from York to south wales and it took over 6 hours without delays and cost £160. I could fly to new york in the same time!

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Pre-booked train fares are generally cheaper than travelling by car on your own. £16 Stockport to London. That is £30 in petrol before you add on the other costs of motoring. And if you can do that trip by car in less than two hours you are a better man than I am.

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When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

A couple of weeks ago I went from Southampton to Torquay with three others. To go by train would have cost £37 each and depending on what train we used would have taken between 3h 45m to 6hrs and this does not include getting to and from the stations. We went by car, cost £40 in fuel and took 3 hrs to get there and 2hrs 20m to get back, at the times we wanted to travel and took us door to door.

Now seeing I have paid road tax and insurance whether I use the car or not and servicing is every year unless my annual mileage is over 15000, the only cost of the journey to me was fuel and a about say £4 on tyre wear. Therefore to me the cost of going by train is just not viable time wise, convenience wise or economically.

Now strangely enough ,you'd expect most rail employees to opt to travel by train ,most of the last generation of BR employees still hold free /reduced travel concessions -yet few do ,except to use up their free travel concessions .WHY- now they're the rail experts .Till they opt to travel by train -would suggest that the rail industry has big problems .

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Have you any justification for that statement?.

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

YEP -spent the last almost ten years working with blokes with up to forty years service ,all ex BR- all holding rail concessions - they were all very picky on when/where to travel-the footy fans made good use of them - no worries about parking ,or having a pint afterwards .Spent a good few days on rail safety courses - all over the country -including week long courses -how did we get there -certainly not by train - would take too long .

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

I just object to paying over a hundred quid for a seat only to stand for over 2 hours. The trains are just not an option for me. I have bad knees and standing still for that long cripples me the next day.

Get yourself a Corolla 2.0 ltr Diesel and its noewhere near that cost. I've achieved 59.1 MPG on the vehicle computer and on human calculations it works out roughly at 56.5 MPG allowing for traffic holdups etc. I always work out my mileage at every fill up and so its very accurate taking it over every tank full. I still like to travel by train though but its too expensive. OLLIE

And how much would that cost me before I even travelled the first mile? I have just done a sixty mile round trip by public transport, to do a ten mile point to point walk, at a cost of six pounds. What would that have cost me by car and taxi?

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown