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 Post subject: Re: IE Soooo Sloooow
PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 21:28 
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Wow i wasn't prepared for Bob marley there (quickly lowered volume) :)

Didn't the london stock exchange switch from Windows to Linux ?
I heard the government also were talking of switching too.

When i tried puppy linux i had some problems with Adobe flash player not working not sure if that issue was ever resolved.

Now i'm considering trying a dual boot with Linux mint.


Yes.. (Windows was an abject failure) And bang on cue.... http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/net ... inux%22%22

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 07:24 
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The real problem is not about accidentally loosing data. That can happen with ink on paper too - there isn't much left from the old library at Alexandria, for example. No, the real problem is the way that advancing technology pulls the rug from under your feet. Non of the stuff I saved on my first word processor 25 years ago, or on my first PC, can be read on a modern computer - you can't even buy the kit needed to read it anymore. And all that music on cartridge and cassette. And those betamax videos. :(

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YES <--- read it and weep !!


That doesn't describe intrinsic security. merely procedural. Essentially it is saying that Linux users are too clever to open their system to malware.

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YES <--- read it and weep !!


That doesn't describe intrinsic security. merely procedural. Essentially it is saying that Linux users are too clever to open their system to malware.


What do you define as "intrinsic" ? Is true multi-User (not the bodge job used my MS) not intrinsic enough ?

You also seemed to have overlooked the "Executable bit" being unset by default.

NOTHING can auto (sneaky) execute. You can willingly download a virus (that works on linux) and double click on it till your blue in the face. Because R**D flags are the only ones set it wont work.

Here's a screengrab of the iTunes executable properties in Linux.

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This doesn't mean Linux is immune to Social Engineering though. Stupid is as Stupid does for ALL systems.

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Outcast wrote:
What do you define as "intrinsic" ?


Intrinsic means an inherent property of a system. An electronic switch, for example, is inherently spark proof whereas a mechanical switch with a snubber capacitor is only sparkproof by design and can fail in such a way that it ceases to be sparkproof.

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Is true multi-User (not the bodge job used my MS) not intrinsic enough ?

Not if one of the users is foolish enough to set the execute bit and then run malware. As far as I can see, the only way to make an operating system intrinsically secure is for it never to be able to execute programs.

Windows (non server) isn't multiuser. Isn

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