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 Post subject: Re: Climate Change Stuff
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 21:25 
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He is supposed to be a scientist not a propagandist.

...and we pay his bloody salary :mad:

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 Post subject: Re: Climate Change Stuff
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 21:53 
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Not by ignorant, self opinionated journalists (whose careers are dependant on communicating to the public what the public wants to hear)


Is there any other kind?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 22:13 
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Not by ignorant, self opinionated journalists (whose careers are dependant on communicating to the public what the public wants to hear)


Is there any other kind?


Yes. Many political correspondents for the serious press are better informed than most politicians (Robert Fisk of the Independent springs to mind when it comes to the Near East) . And there are many good science journalists

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 04:18 
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Do you know? I think that it's all a big global "money grab".... Can you imagine the amount of money taken from the poor, worldwide, in global (so called) green carbon taxes? And what are they doing with it all? Fighting Oil wars perhaps? Hey! Who knows?.............

Does anyone here think that we need or have ever needed a fuel price esculator? I certainly don't...........


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 Post subject: Re: Climate Change Stuff
PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 09:34 
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Local authorities in the most polluted urban locations must start encouraging residents to choose petrol over diesel. This could be achieved through simple measures such as differentiating between diesel and petrol vehicles for residents car parking charges


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8407964/Parking-permit-surcharge-to-force-diesel-cars-off-the-roads.html

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:24 
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Local authorities in the most polluted urban locations must start encouraging residents to choose petrol over diesel. This could be achieved through simple measures such as differentiating between diesel and petrol vehicles for residents car parking charges


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8407964/Parking-permit-surcharge-to-force-diesel-cars-off-the-roads.html

Of course, they won't do anything to actually directly restrict the sales of diesel cars; the authorities instead simply 'tax' it more. One of those methods achieves their stated goal, the other doesn't but nets them a lot of money!

Once the turnover from diesel taxes diminishes, they'll shift their £ocu$ onto petrol cars.

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 Post subject: Re: Climate Change Stuff
PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 14:42 
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Lights on three stretches of motorway are to be permanently switched off to save cash, cut carbon emissions and reduce light pollution


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8404916/Motorway-lights-to-be-turned-off-to-cut-carbon.html

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 22:05 
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/27/climate_change_thorium/

Tim Worstall for The Register wrote:
I find myself in an uncomfortable position over this climate change thing. I've no problem with the existence of man-made climate change, no problem with the idea that we ought to do something about it. But what we are actually trying to do about it seems bonkers, counter-productive even. So how did we get into this mess?


It is a three page piece so I have not quoted it all, the rest expands on the first paragraph above and I found it interesting as the points he raises make a lot of sense irrespective of the climate change debate.

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It is a three page piece so I have not quoted it all, the rest expands on the first paragraph above and I found it interesting as the points he raises make a lot of sense irrespective of the climate change debate.


Thanks for that, T. It is a very well considered and non polemic commentary. As a "we-gotta-do-something" type myself I am completely in agreement that we are doing the wrong thing by subsidising windmills and solar power. The future of "low carbon" energy has to nuclear - fission in the short term, fusion in the long term.

Where I disagree with him is in his statement that the free market always promotes innovation better than does a command economy. The years that gave us the most innovative and rapid technological advance - the beginnings of nuclear power, rocketry, computing; the birth of the jet engine; great advances in electronics - were the years of World War 2. During that period the economies of all the western powers, allied and axis, were absolute command economies.

Under the command of the US military nuclear fusion went from a theoretical idea to working reactors with all the associated infra structure in five years. The free market has been tinkering with nuclear fusion for sixty years without making any serious progress. Under a similar military command structure NASA went from some small, not very reliable rockets, to putting men on the Moon in a decade. In the next four decades the free market has managed to produce some pretty little rockets with not 5% of the lift capacity of the Saturn V.

If society wants something badly enough, be it national survival or a man on the moon, then a strict command economy is the only way to achieve it. Left to itself the free market merely produces more elaborate and attractive ways of spoiling society.

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It's all nonsense. The real threat to health and the environment are wind farms and mobile phone masts. The phone masts and all wireless tech interferes with our DNA. The wind farms scar our landscape, kill birds and the hum adds to the electromagnetic fog designed to mess with our brains.


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Greenpeace loses charity status in New Zealand
(Good i hope it happens here)
By Paul McBeth

May 9 (BusinessDesk) – Environmental lobbyist Greenpeace of New Zealand Inc. is too involved in political causes to register as a charity, the High Court has ruled.

Justice Paul Heath turned down an appeal last Friday that Greenpeace could register with the Charities Commission after the body rejected its 2010 application.

Justice Heath said Greenpeace’s political activities can’t be regarded as “merely ancillary” to its charitable purposes and that the commission was correct in disqualifying it for registration over the potentially illegal activities.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/05/09/g ... w-zealand/

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