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I didn't believe it could be done.
Started a purchase, got the verified by visa window.
Entered the wrong password, several times.
Eventually got the forgotten your password window.....where you can get a new password.
So you obviously need an email address....such as when you signed-up for "it" ?
No. You need the details that are on the card.....and a postcode.
Obviously the brain that dreamed that idea up never carries anything with an address on it.
In what way is that secure ?

Thanks Grabs and Adam

Interesting about the Verified thing Homer. I can't remember why I got it now, it's so long ago. Probably for eBay or Paypall..


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Everyone agrees that police officers sitting in police stations filling out forms is bad news. Police officers should be walking the beat, answering real emergency calls and investigating crime. In an extraordinary example of ‘poacher turned gamekeeper’, former Chief Inspector Jan Berry was appointed the Reducing Bureaucracy in Policing Advocate in October 2008. She is also a former Police Federation leader.

Here is the list of forms and paperwork required by force policy from a Ruralshire Constabulary officer after they have attended a ‘Domestic harassment by text message’ between Wayne and Donna.

The scenario: Wayne has discovered that his on/off ‘baby mother’ Donna is pregnant by his mate Levi. Donna is not really pregnant at all; she just wants to upset Wayne because he stole her child benefit money to buy cannabis. Wayne goes into Ruraltown on Saturday night, gets drunk in the town centre (on cheap booze he has stolen from a supermarket) and sends some texts to Donna, threatening to burn down her council house and kill her (and his child) in the process. He then collapses drunk and falls asleep in a gutter somewhere.

Donna telephones the police and tells the operator what has happened. The operator ticks all the high risk boxes (Arson, a child present, threats to kill, previous domestic violence, pregnancy) and although she knows this is complete nonsense, has no option other than to send at least one unit to Donna as an emergency. This is to cover Ruralshire Constabulary in case this is the one in a million incident where Wayne is actually about to set fire to Donna’s house.

Police attend, take a statement from Donna, take her mobile phone with the texts on and then go looking for Wayne. They find him, He can’t remember anything and gets nicked for making threats to kill. Someone has nicked his unregistered pre-pay phone. He gets bedded down in custody and the officers then sit down in the report writing room to complete the following paperwork:

Pocket Note Books.

Arrest Statement.

Exhibit forms for the mobile telephone.

Donna’s statement (already done).

‘Night time Economy Form’ because the offence happened on Saturday night in the town centre.

‘Domestic Violence Form’ because once, a long time ago, Wayne and Donna swapped bodily fluids and she had a baby as a result.

A ‘Child Protection’ referral form.

An update for the original computer log of the incident.

Several MG forms (I can’t tell you how many as it would identify my force).

The ‘Search Record’ for when Wayne came into custody.

A ‘House to House’ form, mandatory for domestic violence calls.

An immediate ‘HIGH RISK’ information report because of the arson element.

A ‘Drug and Alcohol Rehab’ referral form because Wayne is drunk.

The officers count themselves lucky that Wayne and Donna speak English, that Donna was not the suspect (or they would have had to organise child care for the baby) and that neither needed to be escorted to A & E for treatment. Those features would have required yet more paperwork.

All this for an incident where no one was actually injured.

In the morning, Donna refuses to support a police prosecution, withdraws her statement and swears to the officers that she loves Wayne and tells them to ‘piss off’ when they go to the house to return her phone. Wayne thanks us for the free nights kip and breakfast and leaves grinning after a ‘no comment’ interview. All the paperwork goes into storage, with the tapes from the interview and the custody record (likely to be about ten pages long with various risk assessments etc).

The whole charade is likely to be repeated, all be it in a slightly different way, next weekend and the weekend after that, forever. Every officer who comments below will have dealt with this kind of nonsense on a weekly basis. After all, these incidents are the only attention these people ever get from anyone.

A big HUG and a

This whole debacle also begs the question why retailers send goods to an address other than the cardholder address! If they didn't do this then it would be pointless to steal cards as you could only send the stuff to the card owner address. Not your dodgy mate down the road or wherever it all ends up.