Safe Speed Forums

"Mainly Harmless" sums up our monarchy. But we do, in effect, already have President Cameron. Or, more accurately, elected Dictator Cameron. There are quite a few people I can think of who would make good Presidents. And a lot of them are in that much maligned institution the House of Lords. Baroness James for example. But I suppose that at heart I am a Meritocrat rather than a Democrat. I would rather be ruled by someone who knows what he is doing than by someone who is popular

_________________
When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

I can't think of a single politician whom I'd care to encounter in a dark alley

_________________
Only when ideology, prejudice and dogma are set aside does the truth emerge - Kepler

Perhaps if you on something that you know is very rare you take less chances on the road ?
Perhaps as I suspect it is down to the manner in which the person drives that makes them safe. Which is all about attitude.
Might a biker concentrate on certain road aspects better - like road surface and conditions? (being more vulnerable)
So if it can be shown that say 60% of Reliant owners are bikers or former bikers, might this tell us something about the way in which they observe or manage risk, than precisely what vehicle it is that they drive?

Is there a difference between those that still own/ride bikes too or what vehicle they then own ?
Do bikers attain a cheaper insurance when they obtain car insurance?

Could RR drivers be 'safer' because' they are forced to take corners etc with more consideration due to inherent instabilities? Esp when we see other 3 wheelers are not (I assume as not mentioned specifically - be good to have the entire list) 'as safe', so to speak.

_________________
Safe Speed for Intelligent Road Safety through proper research, experience & guidance.

I'd agree with that.

Also owners of "classic" vehicles I would think mostly take a great deal of pride in their vehicles, therefore will be more likely to take pride in their driving, and be more critical of mistakes??

When I was driving HGV's I found the drivers who kept their truck immaculate tended to also be the ones who had been completely accident / driving offence free for the last 30 odd years, and were also the ones more likely to "get the job done" when schedules were really tight.

_________________
You only need two tools - WD40 and duct tape. If it doesn't move and it should, use WD40. If it moves and it shouldn't, use duct tape. :0)

Bit of topic drift, sorry, but on the subject of classc cars, I came across this website the other day:

http://howmanyleft.co.uk/

...and yes, I'll be driving mine pretty darned carefully now that I know it's one of the last few hundred left in the country!

Hope you have some kind of agreed value insurance in place.

I'm a bit suspicious about some of the figures, I looked up Ducati 900 Super Sport and it says there are only 13 left (licensed + sorn) I just know that is not correct, for the SuperLight version of same bike it says there is only 5 left, pretty confident that ain't right.

If it is right, in a few years my 1991 900SS might be the first bike I've ever owned that could just possibly be worth more than I paid for it!! All I have to do is find where the other 12 are and ummmm sort of ummmm eliminate them

_________________
You only need two tools - WD40 and duct tape. If it doesn't move and it should, use WD40. If it moves and it shouldn't, use duct tape. :0)

I don't, to be honest. Despite being very rare, they're still pretty worthless! I paid an "undisclosed 3-figure sum" for mine a few years ago, and it's probably not depreciated much since then! I've been wondering about "agreed value", and might do it next time renewal comes up but it's not even fully-comp at present. I'm paying £150 for 3rd party fire & theft. (and that was a 50% increase on last year's premium)! Webuyanycar.com offered me £50 with a year's tax on it last time I looked for a laugh!

They are a joke. They offered me £10 less £7 admin fee for my old Golf. The scrapper offered me £50 and I sold it for a £100 to a mechanic who thought it was worth fixing.

_________________
When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

Scrap cars around here, have been worth at least £100 for a couple of years now. I was recently offered £150 for one but managed to get £200 for it, when the scrappy realised it had the original wheels (don't know why cos they were pretty naff anyway)..

_________________
My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.

That seems to be the consensus elsewhere. The figures don't match what people know to be in existence.