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Yes, it's a classic "jam tomorrow" policy which allows them to duck out of doing anything much to improve things today.

As we have discussed before, nobody seriously disputes that healthcare or education should be improved (although people disagree on the means and the definition). There is no such consensus on transport - many people genuinely believe that too much transport, especially when done in a car or an aeroplane, is a bad thing.

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

It may well be a grand political design:

http://www.transport-pricing.net/

http://www.ertico.com/en/news_and_events/ertico_newsroom/towards_a_framework_for_european_road_pricing_workshop_gathers_key_stakeholders.htm

http://store.eiu.com/index.asp?layout=pr_story&press_id=1520001952&ref=pr_list

I could go-on for pages and pages.
Don't forget, the people can be brought to the correct way of thinking, it just takes time.
This idea (road pricing) is VERY heavily researched, politically AND industrially.

Read THIS one...did you know that "distance charging" of trucks was already operating in Europe ?

Unless I've missed something, reading through all these posts. There's one very important issue and indeed an matter integral to this site. SPEED CAMERAS. If this system has functions that enable vehicles to be tracked and speed carefully monitored, then wouldn't that mean that speed cameras would no longer be needed, or at least in a limited way in tunnels and underpasses etc?

Before everyone starts cheering and welcoming this ridiculous, intrusive road-pricing nonsense, remember that speed cameras may still be used-anything to get that extra bit of cash out of us! Where would that leave all the scamera pratnerships? I don't believe they'll just curl up and die. They'll possibly re-invent themselves to enforce road-pricing.

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Anyone who tells you that nothing is impossible has never bathed in a saucer of water.

Get used to it folks......its called. "Feudalism"......and its making a comeback!



Peasants!..........

But will I be able to reply?

This is, of course, "Big Brothers" way of reminding those foolish enough to express an opinion contrary to Government policy that "We know who you are! We know where you live!"

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"The road to a police state is paved with public safety legislation"

Indeed so.....and this is why I explained earlier that "I" was: chicken and would not vote....

They gave out the URL on Top Gear; now the petitions site is very busy.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Damm missed TG again!!

Server for epetitions is now down. The Government are having the last laugh cause everyone trying to sign at once has crashed it.

Regards

Andrew

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It's a scam........or possibly a scamola


Homer Simpson

It's back on again:

Signatures: 1,584,442 ? I'm sure it was this figure about 3 days ago!

Andrew

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It's a scam........or possibly a scamola


Homer Simpson

I'm sure it was!

Hate to be a conspiracist, but since the site is in beta, the operators can 'crash' it whenever they like, and take no responsibility for the lost 'signatures' in the interim.

Since the site only presents the past 500 signatures for inspection, and this petition is so fast-moving, there is no way for anyone who has signed recently to be sure their opinion has been registered.

Isn't there a "view all signatories" button? Mind you, with that many signatories the download would ping a lot of bandwidth with cheese

Nope!

Unless I am blind. Mind you, I prefer the explanation that my mind is finely honed for ignoring irrelevant stuff, and as such it may not have registered

Fear not Mon Chappel.....it is repeated over the next two days AND is available on cable "teleport replay" if you have it, anytime, at your convenience.

I just heard!...It seems that a PC Richard Eccles of the "North Wales" police has been "reprimanded" for encouraging officers to vote in the campaign!...........


Since when did Police Officers have less rights in society than the general public?....

There is a "View all signatories" button available until the point that the programmers have decided is impractical. IOW, once a petition goes over a certain size, the button is removed.

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Will

Well that's a good way to kill off tourism.

Is the Gov't getting worried - radio news article yesterday said that TB was going to reply to every one that voted.--is he trying to change minds, or just tells us that he intends to ignore us anyway.
But then if they go ahead with it - says a lot for the technology,when they can't filter out people who vote twice.(or was that part of their thinking,so that they could ignore votes)

I'm fairly sure that requiring foreigh vehicles to have kit fitted is against Euro-legislation. Vehicles registered in one EU country are deemed to be for for use in ALL EU countries with the only exception being that rhd headlights must be adapted to not-dazzle in lhd countries.
The EU Charter allows free movement of assets, including motor vehicles, across EU borders without any artificial barriers to their movement nor further taxation from that levied in their home countries.