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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 15:13 
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Sixy_the_red wrote:
You couldn't do that though. It might not be safe (unsecure / fragile load for example) to stick to the speed limit at all times.

I agree that the best solution all round is higher quality roads. You cannot expect commercial traffic to stop and pull over just to let Mr. Repmobile past.


This is why I built in requirements for it to only be checked 1/4 mile into a straight section. I'm sorry but if your load is so unstable that it cannot be safe to tow it at 40mph on a perfectly straight bit of road then perhaps it shouldn't be there at all. In any case you are going to be holding up other commercial traffic as well. They have restricted hours you know. ;)


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the problem we have that reps dont is the ability to check our driving times as soon as we are pulled. they can even tell how many kilometres we have travelled. we have no way of hiding extra driving time. reps and van drivers etc can blag it and the hassle to prove you wrong wouldnt be worth it

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the problem we have that reps dont is the ability to check our driving times as soon as we are pulled. they can even tell how many kilometres we have travelled. we have no way of hiding extra driving time. reps and van drivers etc can blag it and the hassle to prove you wrong wouldnt be worth it


Generally I run into exhaustion way before I run out of time, then my driving goes all to shit and there is absolutely no way that work will pay me expenses for a hotel that's only an hour away from home. At least you guys have somewhere to sleep! (Though I appreciate that being forced to do so, when so close to home and your family must be really really annoying)

I'm forced to press on, unsafe, and all because some cock in a Caravan up in Scotland couldn't be bothered to move out of the way and cost me half an hour.


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Another problem with reps ( or so i notice )- on DC/Motorway - i find them up my back bumper in the van any time i venture out of L1 , and it's not limited (but needs a lot of momentum to keep at 60/70 -least that's my excuse).
Come any S/C , who's holding me up, sitting too close to the car in front of them, looking for a never ending straight - yep ,you've guessed it -the same type of rep.He might have the necessary in his golf bag, but it looks like he keeps them there ( and i'm not talking about taking chances,just taking any safe decent chance )

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You're not going to get me defending that type of rep even though my job puts me into very similar driving patterns (I mean times and destinations, not tailgating and fuckwittery). I do however know why they do it.

They're generally in the lowest powered cheapest diesel car they can get with no acceleration so they don't want to slow down, they get as close as possible in a vain and misguided hope that you might get out of the way before they have to touch the brake pedal.

Those that do this in more expensive cars are generally using cruise control and are slowing down with the speed adjuster because they don't want to actually deactivate it by touching the brakes and then have to go through the hassle of using pedals again.

For overtaking they lack the skill and the engine power to overtake properly.

Reps are impatient gits, but they are not getting paid for travelling, it's a long intrusion on the end of a full day of work, they just want to get home without any more delays.

Yes they go the wrong way about it, are pushy, impatient and make things worse for themselves, but I can fully understand why they do it. Advanced driver training could help many of them, but they will never admit to being anything other than a great driver.


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Well Gents, thanks all for your kind comments to my earlier post. :lol: :D ...... :roll:

Perhaps I should explain that re: the wing cutting incident, which occurred in the north of the country on a M'way. I had just overtaken a couple of lorries a caravan or two and some slow moving cars in lane 1..........

The centre lane ahead was clear but lane 1 ahead had some more traffic. Behind, closing at speed was only "ONE" vehicle, being the aforsaid "prat"..

Lane 3, ahead AND behind was TOTALLY clear for MILES!........ and MY staying in lane 2 caused aforsaid "prat" to have to move into lane 3 to overtake at his 90+ mph....

Oh! didums!...... he had to move the steering wheel and engage his brain........mind you, I don't think that he actually indicated before pulling out anyway because there was no-one there!


He had no-one behind him in lane 2.......no-one behind in lane 3, no-one infront in lanes 2 or 3 for as far as the eye could see apart from me in 2. Yet he found it necessary to miss my front wing by inches when pulling back in!......


I repeat my comment ..... "PRAT"! looking for an accident to "some-one else".

Now I don't make a habit of exceeding 80 mph usually, it's normally to get quickly OUT of YOUR way when overtaking on 2 lane European Autobahns, minimising the disruption to faster traffic.

Although, I did once have quite a job to overtake a German reg Merc towing a very large 3 roomed Knaus caravan and I was only towing a folding and very stable (car height) trailer at an un-desclosed speed...... :)

We use the roads just like you, and like you, I know the limits of MY vehicle. If I can get out your way by either changing lane OR increasing speed safely, I will.

Just give us the room we need and DON'T try to drive us into the back of that slow moving truck which leads towing drivers to NOT give you the chance to block them next time, by not indicating early enough. YES........we've ALL seen you put the pedal to the metal as soon as we indicate! :x

Speed IS safe........ for anyone who drives with consideration....

and just think a moment, if I had been just a "car" at 80 mph in the same conditions in the centre lane......... aforesaid "Prat" wouldn't have had a problem.

It's ALL about a trendy "Top Gear" attitude against caravans! I LOVE the progamme, wouldn't miss it........but their insane attitude on this subject is nothing but a "juvenile" and outright dangerous message to put out there on the roads. It encourages a loutish behaviour at speed towards other drivers! In short, it KILLS people! ..and I have seen and suffered the results of their tripe!

Have a nice day Gents! :)


P.S. You're safe for the next 3 weeks.............come this weekend........ :lol: :D


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