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So does this mean I should carry a cat or chicken to satiate a dog or fox I may encounter as I go for a walk through a public countryside path???

Where do we draw the line? There are more stupid dog owners than stupid dogs.

The dogs can get away with murder because it's a dumb, subservient, obedient dog. The owner can use this fact to sh1t others up with complete impunity!

This is what happens.. The dog is put down after it has attacked or killed someone when it is the owner who should be held to account!

The dog takes the blame for doing what the irresponsible human animal has done to it.

Dog ownership should be more like an adoption!

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

And you don't seem to realise that these dogs see you as a threat( YOU are creating the threat).
But by simple compromising measures you could negate this threat . I've tried to explain dog logic ,as I understand it . They see things as foe, or friend. They see others as higher order pack members or lower ,and they will challenge to determine order . But on doggy terms - high order members bring food - low order members eat when the high order ones are finished . You are intruding into their space - try making friend instead of enemies .Just try once , taking a few doggy biccies on a walk - instead of the stun guns . A cheap packet of Biccies possibly as low as 35p - will do more good than an expensive stun gun .
STOP hating dogs ,and get to know your enemy - one day -you might even want to own a dog .

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I do understand dog psychology and I do realise that they see me as threat. Which is why I don't think that they should be allowed in the public arena. A psychopath with a gun sees everybody as a threat. But we lock him away, rather than giving him a biscuit.

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Maybe if we gave him a biscuit we wouldnt have to lock him away!

Much better all round!

(PS its paranoid people who see everybody as a threat. Psycopaths simply see everybody as a resource to be exploited! )

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I used to go on country walks with my sister and friends but we were put off some of the routes because it went past a farm where there were several dogs kept behind a fence, to ward off any burglars I guess.

There’s one instance I remember very well, where they were barking and clawing at the fence like demented mad things. It was so loud we could hardly talk to each other and we all thought the same thing “if ever they get out were screwed!”

It was such a frightening experience and ruined what should have been a nice end to the day TBH. I needed a drink afterwards just to help calm my nerves; we all did. Now maybe their bark was worse than their bite, but if you saw just how crazy these raging things were pushing up against what looked to us as quite a weak and fragile fence, you really wouldn’t want to find out the hard way. Again, I’m not blaming the dogs but at the end of the day it is still nonetheless terrifying for us.

The only other time I had felt so scared in a situation like that was where we think the farmer had put, or deliberately used, aggressive cows in a field. They came closer and closer and my knees were knocking like castanets I can tell you.

Then, suddenly, the one came running towards us and I nearly $h1t myself! If you have ever seen about one ton of muscle charging towards you and felt the sound of its hoofs thudding on the ground like an earthquake you will know exactly what I mean.

I think many people do have a ‘love me love my dog’ thing without always considering whether others like or are intimidated by them. It’s a bit like me having a pet tarantula or snake and talking it around everywhere expecting everyone else to love it like I do. The same goes for, usually, women who have a baby screaming its head off but "oh isn't she a little sweetie and what a good pair of lungs". Er, get it away from me please!!!

I like nice well behaved dogs but I’m not sure they constitute the majority.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

You are forgetting that dog psycology is very similar to human psycology.

The bravest dogs are the ones safely located behind a high fence!

There was a dog very like this on one of my regular walks down to the village whren I was young.

As you approached the property frontage it would follow you along behind the hedge making blood curdleing growls until you got to the gate whereaupon it would leap up with its front paws on the top of the gate and bay at you with fangs bared.

Unfortunatly, one day, somebody had left tha gate open! and the reaction of the Dog when he got to the gate was a sight to behold!

The poor mut stood there "speachless" with his Jaw open as we faced each other only 2 feet appart. They say one should not put the thoughts of Man into the minds of animals but it was quite clear that this dog was thinking "Oh Crap!"

I dont know how he behaved with everybody else but after that he never barked at Me again!

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"The road to a police state is paved with public safety legislation"

Yes but the humans who are behind 'a fence' got there for a reason, probably lots of reasons, before they eventually got there.. These dogs are behind a fence because they haven't been let loose on society yet like those humans. If or when they do, they won't get put back over the fence because they tend to get put down. They may, as you suggest, be a kitten. But I don't want to end up being the reason why one of them is put down, if you know what I mean, and I would rather not be exposed to that kind of experiment.

I was more concerned about the thoughts that dog was putting in my head. If a man came up and threatened or intimidated you in the way dogs can and do it would be totally unacceptable behaviour would it not?

I don’t want to look like I’m blowing this up out of proportion because rarely do I have a problem with any dog and, like I say, the ones I meet through work and the neighbours dogs etc are nice. I don't hate dogs or any other animal. If a friend brings one around to my house they are both most welcome if the dog is well behaved and the owner has it under control. It is stupid and irresponsible owners I have a problem with, like the gonk I mentioned who gets a kick out of letting his muscle and fangs spit fire at me just for being on a bike.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.