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Well, that might be because I don't particularly care about speed limits in themselves. I care about not hitting anyone or anything, and to the maximum possible extent avoiding anyone who's going to hit me. Apart from some talivan who's going to be able to judge my speed that accurately anyhow? If you can't tell when someone's speeding they can't be a bad influence, can they? And before you say it, I do realise that if I went haring down the road flat out it'd would be clear to everyone that I was speeding, but since I don't drive like that... no problem for the sheep.
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Why wait a month? Been there, done that, read the book, worn the tee-shirt and paid the FPN. I can tell you now that I'm almost always aware of the limits (recent exception: when a local NSL dual carriageway was dropped to 50 they changed the lollipops on the slip road I use, but didn't cut back the bloody bushes that had obscured the old ones for about a year - the first I knew of the changed limit was at the first repeater). No, I don't feel guilty about minor overspeeds, though of course I'd be annoyed if I got pinged again. I don't even feel guilty about deliberately exceeding a low limit, particularly on roads that used to have higher limits and were none the worse for them. But again, it bugs me that I could get pinged again. Is that going to stop me? No, not unless someone can convince me that I'm safer, rather than merely obedient.

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Ah! MRSA (not in my hospital!) Am viral lurgy chap - but comes under my brolly as "bloke in charge.of lurgy containment"

Not a lot we can do ...

Not copping out - but - um - you already have it! And I mean everyone... on the skin, in your nose. The problem lies in the fact that the bacteria can get into the body through breaks in the skin and cause infection. Some may remain immune whilst other who have some other problem - anaemic , run down, stressed out...

MRSA repsonds to two antibiotics and there are others being trialled at the moment which are less painful than vancomycin - which causes allergic reactions and we have to drip it in. If we injected into a muscle as we do with teicoplanin - it would hurt. Reserved for hopsital patients only

Curent flavour of the month in MRSA treatment is Zyvox - still in trial but promising. Especiallly as there is a tablet form.

Washing hands between treating patients is pure common sense - was normal when I trained . Washed hands after each patient and every 15 minutes if not treating. But them were the ood ol'days (hey - am only 45 year young... )

But.. am a virus chap - and I look at emerging pathogens as well.

Washing hands also washes away a virus before the little fella can worm his way into your body.

You also have millions of these viruses in your body all the time and most do not cause a problem. They are just sacks of protein and a few bio-chemicals and have one aim in mind - to set up little virus sex shops in your body to create a huge family. A virus looks for a cell to invade and then hacks his way into your body's hard disk. The anti-viral softeware in your system then attack the virus and your runny nose is really the body washing the virus and infected cells out of your body. The immune system logs in records and creates a defence for next time.

That's basically what happens in comic book speak.

Reassuring ain't I - reminding you all that we are all basically bacteria, viruses and water....

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Gatomate - well said!

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It makes folk wonder just what you REALLY got up to last night!

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Enjoy life! You only have the one bite at it.

MM, I wasn't aware MRSA was like that!

I'd heard Herpes Simplex could cause all manner of different effects, from the standard ulcer/cold sore, through the STD all the way to Encepahlitis (I think that's the posh way of saying swelling within the brain?).

Is this the case with all viruses? In some places they cause little or no trouble, but let them into vital organs or the ilk and they reek havoc?

Sorry, this has gone slightly of topic!

MRSA stands for methicillin resistant Stapylococcus Aureus. In the 40s - penicillen zapped it - but this liitle b***r is fighting for survival and has now engineered its own defence against most anti-biotics - called "beta- lactamese - which basically nobbles penicillen. Some strains have become resistant to other common anitbiotics such as metticillin and flucloxacillin.

Basically - we all have this bacteria on our bodies and problems arise in the hospitals where we have much human contact. Hence the ease in which it spreads - and the need to be careful and clean 100% of the time. Some hospitals have contained and others haven't. Perhaps volume, foreign nurses and turnover of agency staff is a part of it.

Common example of MRSA - person is admitted after a road crash. He contract pneumonia. Part of this is due to fluids setlling in his lungs, part is down to shock and part is down to MRSA

Viruses can wreak mild to serious havoc if they develop and Sergeant Antibody does not raise his troops in time. Lot of heart transplant patients are down to virus attacking the heart muscle. Viruses are not picky - they are like squatters - looking for a house to take over. Some are harmless - but like MRSA , and other bacteria ,they are living organisms fighting for survival and the nastiest survive and create illnesses - which can be passed on by human contact and breath. If someone sneezes and droplet lands on your cheek - chances are it will dry and die without invading you. If it is sucked in via your nostrils or lands on you hand and you then wipe your eyes and mouth without realising whilst virus is gasping for breath there - it then enters you body - and rejoices in nice warm hidye hole where it can breed safely. If your Sergeant Antibody on guard has not met Mr Virus before - he lets him in. If he recognises him as old enemy - he gets zapped your immune system.

Viruses belong to groups and families - and they develop various strengths and strains to ensure survival and multiplication.

I find it a fascinating study - but cannot give all details as this could go into pages and am trying to keep it in brief simplistic terms as jargon just confuses.

But ...

Basically that's how your immune system works in very loose and simple terms.

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If you want to get to heaven - you have to raise a little hell!

Smilies are contagious
They are just like the flu
We use our smilies on YOU today
Now Good Causes are smiling too!

KEEP SMILING
It makes folk wonder just what you REALLY got up to last night!

Smily to penny.. penny to pound
safespeed prospers-smiles all round! !
But the real message? SMILE.. GO ON ! DO IT! and the world will smile with you!
Enjoy life! You only have the one bite at it.

Thanks Mog. That's not an image I would have chosen to go to sleep on.

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How about wasting police resources?

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I'm not asking you to do this for life - just for a few weeks as a little experiment. I'll tell you what - if you take my challenge, I promise to speed now and again, like you do! That way, we can understand each other's point of view a little better! But don't try any tricks - once you take the pledge to cure your addictions, you must stick with it for one whole month.

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Obeying the law is part of the social glue that holds society together. We can't pick and choose which ones we want to obey and which ones are a pile of tosh. If you break the law in any way, you have less right to grumble when other people break laws they find 'inconvenient'. You'll be paid back in spades - if you routinely show no respect for the the law yourself, expect others to do the same, but worse.

Best policy - obey the law if possible - it's generally safer, sets a good example, obviates the chance of an FPN, uses less gas and makes less noise and pollution and your engine will last longer and it's less stressful! Come on Moggie, take the challenge!

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I don't think since the ten commandments has any law been 'passed down' as absolute and unequivocal.

Even before a bill becomes statute it is debated and altered and questioned. After it accedes, a law it is still interpreted and altered. Often it is repelled.

Law has to reflect society, not the other way around. When blind acceptance of the law becomes the norm then we are in a very dangerous, grave position.

It was once legal to own slaves and persecute minorities. Are you suggesting that these people should never have rejected their slavery just because the law said so?

The law, like most things is subject to change.





Parliament is a good change control process. Stakeholders are represented and conflicts are resolved with the least pain.



No, but the injustice was that slaves could not vote to abolish slavery. Drivers can vote to abolish speed limits if there are enough of them, or to abolish the methods (radar, camera, plain cars, etc.) to enforce them, although it would be illogical to have a law where the methods to enforce it are banned, especially when new technology means that new methods of speed (and other violation) detection are inevitably going to be found. Better to address the policies than abolish new technology!

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Let me repeat, the way I drive already fulfils your modified challenge with the exception of the feeling guilty bit. That is a problem. You might as well ask me to try to enjoy a TV program I don't like. Put a gun to my head and I'll watch it, but nothing you can do will actually make me enjoy it. Same with feeling guilty about overspeeds and ignoring loony limits... if I felt guilty about it I wouldn't do it, would I? So I don't see how I an do more with your challenge than I do already and have been doing for ages. Equally I'm sure I've seen you admit to slight overspeeds so you already are speeding now and again. How can we both pledge to a month of trying something we both do already?

I also repeat, I am not hooked on fast driving. I can get my adrenalin rushes elsewhere and if I really felt the need for seriously fast driving I'd go to a track - rather not use my own car for that though as I'd pick up the bill in every sense when I ran out of talent (probably lap 4 or so ). So far I've never felt the urge apart from being well up for karting on the couple of times I've been invited. Sadly I was hopeless. Turns out I drive karts on tracks like I drive cars on the road. Far too courteous and keen to avoid collision, so one last place and one second to last. If that's my standard of competitive driving it ought to tell you something about how I behave on the road . Good fun though.

However, I will admit I am deeply and hopelessly addicted to avoiding collisions, almost slavishly so if I'm honest. Is this something I should be cured of?

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Basingwerk:- <uses less gas and makes less noise and pollution and your engine will last longer>


My car does that in fifth gear, not third or fourth, either of which is necessary to obey UNnecessary limits

Third? I should be so lucky. At 20mph my car pulls 2000rpm in second below which I'm in first. 30mph is second-gear work.

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Peter

This is all utter nonsense if the law is deemed to be unjust.

Why should bwe not hold ridiculous laws in contempt?
This used to be a democracy you know.

These arseholes that set these limits do so for their own ends, and it has nothing to do with common sense or safety. Please dont expect us to blindly follow their rules when they clearly get it very wrong.

The way its going, the only people that will be left on the roads are the elderly the infirm and new drivers to scared to take their eys off the road for a second, or a hand off the wheel.
I've been pinged, and sorry, but I DONT deserve to be consigned to a bus !