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Does that mean that anyone living inside the M25 that owns a classic car wouldn't be able to use it due to this idiotic scheme?

Which vehicles would be included in the Low
Emission Zone?

As the LEZ is designed to discourage the use of the most individually
polluting vehicles in London, the scheme is targeted at older dieselengine
HGVs, buses, coaches, heavier LGVs and minibuses. Both UK
registered and non-UK registered vehicles would need to comply
with the LEZ, with vehicles being defined using European vehicle
definitions to ensure a legal basis that applies equally across the EU.
The LEZ would also apply to some private vehicles which are lorryderived
vehicles, such as some horse boxes and some motor homes.

It is not proposed that cars be included in the LEZ at this stage,
although the Mayor has asked TfL to look at the implications of
potentially including cars at a later date.

It is proposed that a small number of vehicle types would be exempt
from the scheme. These include agricultural vehicles, military vehicles,
historic vehicles not used for hire or reward, non-road going vehicles
which are allowed to drive on the highway (for example excavators)
and certain types of mobile crane. These vehicles typically use
engines certified to different standards than road-going engines.
Some of these vehicles are proposed to be exempt due to their
unsuitability for retrofitting pollution abatement equipment,
conversion to an alternative fuel, or engine replacement.

It is not proposed that cars be included in the LEZ at this stage,
although the Mayor has asked TfL to look at the implications of
potentially including cars at a later date.

and I wouldn't trust Livingstone as far as I could throw him.

Are there private bus operators in London?

This must be an infrastructure development move. By installing cameras to police their 'low emissions zone' they have all the infrastructure required to roll out a much larger congestion charge.

It may also be intended to push private operators out of the transport market. Are there private bus operators in London?

Or do they need justification to raise money for more new buses?

It stinks to high heaven, actually, and I wouldn't trust Livingstone as far as I could throw him.

You have to read far between the lines, I reckon.

... they're talking of charging £200 for an HGV registered before 2002. (the bumf says £200 for a HGV and £100 for a heavy LGV - no one seems to have told them that they are the same)...

There is no way operators are going to be able to afford to pay that without transfering it straight onto the customers (Like Londoners are going to pay a surcharge on EVERYTHING they buy), so they are left with 2 options. Either upgrade the entire fleet or not go into London. Three guesses what most will do?

Hopefully, they'll either boycott London or make sufficiently large surcharges that helps decentralisation.