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It's official: global warming is guff

The arrogance of some elements of the human race never ceases to astonish me. It seems to me more and more that the whole carbon emissions/global warming/climate change movement is more to do someone's idea of how to maintain our way of life rather than avoiding tampering with nature, which is exactly what this report is all about!

Next: Tax on milk and dairy products. That'll sort it out.

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Andrew.

Are cow farts a mild form of bull shit?

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Paul Smith
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Could be political correctness - bulls being male and all.

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Andrew.

They seem to have forgotten about termites. They produce a lot of methane and there are a lot of them. Cows fart more when they aren't fed on grass which is why I always buy grass fed beef if at all possible. Cows fed on real food are probably happier anyway. The issue of methane and climate has been known about for ages. Bjorn Lomborg was on about it in his book. I wonder how much methane people produce!

Spring grass and first cut silage really makes 'em fart. As for happy cows, they like lots of different feeds, spuds being a particular favorite.

I had read somewhere that the greatest animal source of green house gas was termites. Apparently there are over a tonne of the little buggers for every human being, and eating their own weight every day makes for a lot of digestive gas.

yes folks the greatest danger to the environment is termite farts..

On another not I notice that "composting" is considered to be a "green" activity. Even though it produces vast amounts of Methane, a far more damaging green-house gas.

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Speed camera policy Kills

Vapour form thereof in fact!

So for the sake of accuracy, if someone's spoken word (vapour in motion itself) is wildly innaccurate, it should really be referred to as 'Cow Farts', or perhaps 'Bovine Flatulence'!

MY GOD PLEEESE save me from this hell

Are these people fu**in wired to the moon or WHAT?

Even if this were true is the theory of this not methane/carbon neutral anyway?

Regards

Andrew

P.S. Ban the cows.....ban the cows.....ban the cows.....stop chewing up our grass mmaaaannn!

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Homer Simpson

or better still (Mr Brown)................................

TAX THEM!!!

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And how about action to force Ministers to tell the truth ( oh i forgot -if they're silent then they are ,probably)

I don't think that the "problem" of bovine methane emmisions will last long. Why? Well milk is still 17 pence per litre, dispite Britain not producing enough milk to satisfy demand. If the price of milk does increase to say, cover the cost of production, the cows will all get shot.

So instead of methane emmisions, there will be carbon emmisions from the trucks hauling a comodity from the Continent that we can easily produce at home. But then you lot want feeding for nothing...

Adam, have you noticed any improvement in (say) beef sales since the end of the FMD crisis and the little "British" tractor logo on many meats? We try to buy home-grown stuff when we can and the logo on the packs helps identify the stuff. I just wondered if it had made any difference?

Is that us? Or is it the supermarkets?

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Paul Smith
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I'm not in the livestock sector, dad was a dairy farmer unill july last year but the low price of milk forced him out.

I've no idea what the post FMD situation is, I would hazard a guess that the out break has caused a shortage of breeding stock which are still being replace even now. There would be a replacement rate of say 20% that comes from normall breeding programmes, but whe thousands of extra animals get slaughtered it would but a very large spanner in the work. Dad and his neighbours were alot worse of not getting FMD than those that got it due to the farms being shut down for a lengthy period.

You are making friends by buying British and local produce . Even if you think farmers are tossers (and many do) the closer to source you buy your food the better it should be. We have a butcher in my village that sells Scottish beef. Fair enough, but we are a long way from Scotland in south east Essex and there are beef cattle in the village. It's madness.

The welfare and environmental standards are off the scale on these islands and I believe it's all traceable here. If you buy foreign food you can't say where it came from or how it was produced. It might be really well produced, but equaly it might not be, either way you will never know.

No, I've nothing against farmers. I guess they vary a lot though. Here in Cumbria, they tend to be smaller farms and not much arable stuff. Our house backs on to a farm and at 06.30 on Christmas morning the kids were up (no surprise there!) opening their presents. Through the French windows in our living room I could see the lights of the framer's little quad bike as he took a couple of bales of hay to his sheep for breakfast through the freezing drizzle that Cumbria serves up so well!

Of course, on nice summer days I envy him his idyllic rural way of life, but at 6.oo on a grey Christmas morning, I'm not quite so keen to swap places!

I think it's a bit of both really. We happiely blame supermarkets for every thing, but they just respond to consumer demand. I don't blame people for wanting cheap food, but it will ultimately come at a price. There has been some complacency in agriculture and there have been some people operating that should not have been. But even the big boys arn't making money because they just can't get the economies of sale.

People want to pay industrial scale prices for their food, but don't like what that means, they still want us to be wearing a smock, chewing on a piece of straw with a pitch fork in our hands. But wheat at £85/tonne and milk at 17pence per litre need production on a massive scale, and I mean massive. It could be done perhaps but there will be no room for hedges and pretty countryside walks. Great Britain just isn't laid out for that kind of scale of production. In North West Kansas there are feed lots producing beef with 30,000 head on site, outside with no bedding. Is that how you want your beeef produced, because that is what you are paying for.