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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 18:23 
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I understand that in 2005 the UK was a nett exporter of cars, I don't know how much this will have changed for 2006 with the closure of the Pug plant in Coventry though.

Whilst I am generally "pro" Europe, I have a slight preference for cars built on the island rather than on the mainland. I say slight preference, my last 2 cars were both Coventry built 206's, but my current car is a bit Germanic.

I'm thinking of changing my car in the next couple of months, it's only 18 months old but the time may be right for a change sooner rather than later (depending on whether or not my bonus comes in at the expected level!). What cars are currently built / assembled here?

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I'm thinking of changing my car in the next couple of months, it's only 18 months old but the time may be right for a change sooner rather than later (depending on whether or not my bonus comes in at the expected level!). What cars are currently built / assembled here?


Honda Civic (not Coupe or hybrid)
Toyota Avensis, Corolla (most models)
All Jaguars
All Land Rovers
Mini
Nissan Almera, Primera, Micra

The problem with tha Japanese offerings is that they have substantial overseas content and not all variants are made in the UK.

Its hard to specify where a car came from when there are global manufacturing locations. And its hard to establish the UK content now the UK has dropped the minimum local content conditions on the manufacturers. The Yen/£ exchange rate favours Japanese imports.

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I remember way back that VOLVO were found to have the highest British derived content of ANY manufacturer.
Not sure if that still stands today, but I do remember the cardboard sleeve for repalcement fanbelts, was made and printed in Staveley, by Kentmere Packaging!

At the time they were using Triumph engines I believe.

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tee hee

how long can you wait?

current production run= two in three years.... maybe

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Apart from the engine (which has been thoroughly modifed to remove its yankness) you can't get more British than:

www.bristolcars.co.uk

Need a few bob for a new one though :(

I've always been a fan of Bristols :wink:

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prof beard wrote:
Apart from the engine (which has been thoroughly modifed to remove its yankness) you can't get more British than:

www.bristolcars.co.uk

Need a few bob for a new one though :(

I've always been a fan of Bristols :wink:


There was once a time when Bristol claimed that nobody had ever died behind the wheel of a Bristol (appart from a suicide who had gassed himself so it diddnt count)

Dont know if it is still true though!

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At the time they were using Triumph engines I believe.


Volvo did manage a very high British content at one time, but not using Triumph engines.

It was Saab who used the Triumph engine for many years, developing it into their own Turbo engine, which has only been replaced relatively recently when small Saabs became Vectras in drag.

The engine started as a 1700, soon enlarged to the 1850 and 2 litre versions used in the dolomite and TR7. It was basically half the v8 used in the Triumph Stag, and was developed into the 4 valve engine used in the Dolomite Sprint and some TR7s. All the cylinder blocks were machined using the same production equipment. A 4 litre 32 valve v8 would have been an interesting possibillity for the Stag if the cooling problems had been solved.


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Gizmo wrote:
Honda Civic (not Coupe or hybrid)
Toyota Avensis, Corolla (most models)

Toyota are imminently replacing the Corolla with the Auris, which will also be built at Burnaston.

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All Jaguars
All Land Rovers
Mini
Nissan Almera, Primera, Micra

Vauxhall Astra as well.

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At the time they were using Triumph engines I believe.


Volvo did manage a very high British content at one time, but not using Triumph engines.

It was Saab who used the Triumph engine for many years, developing it into their own Turbo engine, which has only been replaced relatively recently when small Saabs became Vectras in drag.

The engine started as a 1700, soon enlarged to the 1850 and 2 litre versions used in the dolomite and TR7. It was basically half the v8 used in the Triumph Stag, and was developed into the 4 valve engine used in the Dolomite Sprint and some TR7s. All the cylinder blocks were machined using the same production equipment. A 4 litre 32 valve v8 would have been an interesting possibillity for the Stag if the cooling problems had been solved.

Yup - my memory failed me!
The Cars of the Stars Museum at Keswick has the Saint's Volvo P1800....
ASSEMBLED by Jensen - not Triumph.
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When released for general sale to the public, the real P1800 was a truly international car. Whilst based solidly on Swedish design, the striking body lines were derived from Italian thinking and made this model unlike any other Volvo. Engine and gearbox were of course pure Volvo while the rear axle was American and many other components were of UK or European origin. Its monocoque body shell was produced in Scotland by Pressed Steel and because of insufficient capacity in Volvo's Swedish plants, the model was initially assembled by Jensen in West Bromwich. And with its 1780cc engine capable of producing 100 bhp

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What cars are currently built / assembled here?

tee hee



This Podwer coating (57 seconds)? Is it in any way similar to the Powder Coating process?? :D


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handy wrote:
I'm thinking of changing my car in the next couple of months, it's only 18 months old but the time may be right for a change sooner rather than later (depending on whether or not my bonus comes in at the expected level!). What cars are currently built / assembled here?


Honda Civic (not Coupe or hybrid)
Toyota Avensis, Corolla (most models)
All Jaguars
All Land Rovers
Mini
Nissan Almera, Primera, Micra

The problem with tha Japanese offerings is that they have substantial overseas content and not all variants are made in the UK.

Its hard to specify where a car came from when there are global manufacturing locations. And its hard to establish the UK content now the UK has dropped the minimum local content conditions on the manufacturers. The Yen/£ exchange rate favours Japanese imports.


I'm sure Honda also build the Jazz and Accord here too and I'm sure the CRV and FRV are too. They export the CRV to the US from Swindon I seem to remember seeing on the telly. I think Honda do a lot of engineering here too.


Don't Ford still build the Transit here too...

Where is the money made? People perceve that because there is a big factory some where that it is a good thing for the local economy, but is that the case?


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Don't Ford still build the Transit here too...


Or - does Ford build the Transit anymore - the latest ones of the old shape seem to be thrown together, and the new shape is available ( from whsat i've seen) by various makers :lol:


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Let's keep our finger crossed that this is a success ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/business/6312917.stm

Maybe I'll wait to change my car and try to get a new one of these instead.

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IIRC most of the Transit range is made here, but the very big ones like mine and the Transit Connects are made in Turkey.


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