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Or if being "green" the "new face of facism?

OK.. so it's old Leo from the Express.. but even so... he speaks for the majority here.

But perhaps worthy of discussion






In today's paper though.. the "Martin types of the Ever Decreasing Circle" write in their indignation of being "accused" of being a "busy body snitch" but where do and should we draw the line.

We now have the prospect of being spied on on a night out .. lest we decide to light up a smoke in the gents...

Now .. as it happens.. I do not smoke.. I do advise all my patients to give up smoking and give the necessary advice to help this. I do warn that it does impact on treatments, outcome and life expectancy .. and I do dislike people smoking and spoiling my "right" to breathe cleanish air when wining and dining my wild ... but somehow ... I tend to choose the smoke free areas .. or choose to dine at the places which have never allowed smoking at table .. etc.

However, I do draw the line at people photographing and videoing these people smoking. It is intrusive .. to all in that public place in reality

It seems the answer to everything is to film and fine folk.

How about the old fashioned method . .. as in human being chatting to human being about dangers, a bit of discretion and judgement .. with a prosecution being the last resort .. as in my Mum telling me she would count to three and if I was still misbehaving as she uttered three.. then the smack on the legs would become reality!

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I firmly believe that if the "British" right and left, don't come together against this intrusion from elsewhere..........then say goodbye to our nation....In the past, the British "mentallity", worked out best for us and was supported by the population who had social cohesion in mind. Lord help us if we follow the present path.

Interesting. In the recent past there was a discernable difference between "left" and "right" parties to vote for. Now, the scramble to the consensual centre means that all the parties merge into an amorphous mass.

The big advantage of the old arrangement was that the excesses of either extreme were tamed by the opposition who commanded enough votes to scare them at an election. Today, this does not happen and the authoritarian centrists (a.k.a. Politically Correct Control Freaks - PCCF - a new acronym I've invented ) run all over us.

The PCCF think they know best what's good for us. They don't, but they are in power.

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I agree with every word of that article.

Snitches taking pictures of you smoking in the toilets, doing 35mph on a 30mph road or dropping a sweet wrapper in the street are only half the equation.

ID cards and the national identity database, with the storage of biometric data (all in the name of "anti-terrorism", you understand) which will allow any photograph of your face to identify you on a central offence processing computer, is the other half.

It's plain to see where this is going. Either a totalitarian regime where everything you have is dependent on 100% adherence to the slightest whim of those in power, or a total loss of confidence in the electoral system and mass public revolt. I would like to think that we in Britain are made of strong enough stuff to take option 2, but once people of my generation are gone and we're just left with the new dumbed-down mommycoddled Playstation 2 generation, I wouldn't be so sure.

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Back to the question.........I don't believe in extremism. I view extreme left....OR right, with equal disdain. That, I believe was the best thing about post war British politics......everyone knew just WHAT the people would stand for.

I believe that since 1979, (and the further we are away from it...the clearer it will become) that a very different era was born.

The global..left right "balance" is now gone leaving a "victor" to take the spoils...

1984?.........4 years earlier IMO.

Balance between freedom and safety.

Free to make your own decisions, your own mistakes and accept that others decisions and mistakes may affect you adversely.

Safe to do anything that someone else tells you is OK.

Chaos and order.

Civilisation lies somewhere between the two?
or
Civilisation incorporates both?

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And the dangerous thing is that if some party recognises that, changes their policy to include the effects of negating the PCCF ,no matter how extreme other policies are ,they will get a large vote."Give Britain back to the voters " or something similar is going around and the other aims/bits of the manifesto are getting hidden.