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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 11:11 
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Hundreds of disabled people could be prosecuted because they are driving untaxed mobility scooters.

A little-known law, recently introduced, states that driving a road vehicle which exceeds speeds of 4mph must be registered with the DVLA.

Today, Leicestershire police confirmed they would enforce the law if someone was caught driving on the road in such a mobility scooter without a tax disc.

Lesley de Carle, head of the Shopmobility scheme in Leicester, which lends mobility scooters to shoppers who have a disability, said: "The DVLA has recently brought it in, but hardly anyone knows about it. I only found out by reading it in a magazine.

"There are potentially hundreds of people in the county who are now breaking the law because nobody told them.

"I would have thought people running Shopmobility schemes would be told, but we have not had anything.

"It seems odd to me that you can ride a bike on a road untaxed, but a mobility scooter, which goes much slower, needs a disc. I have four which go above 4mph, and these are not being used until I have them registered."

Scooters which go faster than 4mph are known as class-three carriages. Anything which travels up to 4mph does not need to be taxed because it is not allowed on the road, apart from to cross it.

A DVLA spokesman said: "Class-three invalid carriages need to be registered for road use, be licensed in the disabled taxation class and display a tax disc.

"Class-three vehicles may be driven on the road legally without a licence, although other vehicles must stay on paths.

"Vehicles like these are exempt from the requirement to have motor insurance cover and although it is not a legal requirement for class-three vehicles to have insurance cover, it is strongly advised that they do.

"No one has been prosecuted for this offence, but it is a legal requirement."

Because there are not yet any prosecutions, the exact punishment is unknown, although it is likely to be a fine.

Jack Clay, 91, of Blaby, has recently insured his scooter after learning about the law.

He said: "I read about the changes and I could not believe it, and I know there will be many people who know nothing about it.

"I want to warn others about the risks they are running if they are caught.

"The DVLA has done little to tell people about this, and I'm sure there are many people who are as shocked as me."

Some people are eligible for a free tax disc for their mobility scooter. The DVLA can be contacted on 0870 850 0007.


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I'd like to know where Jack Clay of Blaby got his insurance, 'cos my Mum has being trying to obtain insurance and recovery cover without success for hers.


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A little-known law, recently introduced, states that driving a road vehicle which exceeds speeds of 4mph must be registered with the DVLA.

Looking to the future, this is probably so DVLA can then demand they also have number plates, and then when speed limits are reduced to 5mph everywhere, even mobility scooters can get pinged going past a gatso...

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Mr. Oaten: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport (1) what consultation he has carried out with disability groups on the new classification of mobility scooters as vehicles rather than invalid carriages and the impact of such classification on their use on the highways and footpaths; [136364]

(2) what he expects the impact of the new EU classification of mobility scooters as motorised vehicles to be on the capacity to use those scooters on footways and highways. [136368]

Gillian Merron [holding answer 8 May 2007]: The Department for Transport considers that the change in the classification of mobility vehicles is purely a customs and excise issue, which will not affect road traffic legislation.

Consultation with disability groups on the new classification has not been carried out as it is not considered that it will impact on the ability of scooter users to travel on highways or footpaths.

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A DVLA spokesman said: "Class-three invalid carriages need to be registered for road use, be licensed in the disabled taxation class and display a tax disc.


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Gillian Merron [holding answer 8 May 2007]: The Department for Transport considers that the change in the classification of mobility vehicles is purely a customs and excise issue, which will not affect road traffic legislation.


So the disabled still pay nothing, but how much does it cost to collect nothing - or is it ,being a Customes & Excise issue a job creation/saving one ?? :roll:

Or do we find some hint of Brussels behind it ??

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I can just see one going down the hill into Bowness, and Steve Callaghan triumphantly gloating because the invalid scooter blipped over the 4 mph limit! :lol:

And look on the back for the "0800 345 678 - Hows my Driving?" sticker! :D

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If they're classed for road use then all the road regs surrounding driving will apply won't they? If so, this would mean it would require the driver to be licensed, insured, taxed and sober. Where does this leave banned drivers exactly? Where does it leave those without a licence because they have epilepsy or some other condition? Have they really thought through the consequences properly?


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loads of forgetfull old people not applying for their free tax discs= millions of dollars in fines

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loads of forgetfull old people not applying for their free tax discs= millions of dollars in fines


Yep.

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loads of forgetfull old people not applying for their free tax discs= millions of dollars in fines


OH dear , maybe i've forgotten - or have we followed the yanks into dollars too :roll:

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botach wrote:
OH dear , maybe i've forgotten - or have we followed the yanks into dollars too :roll:

Maybe not.. Could be :-
Australian dollar · Bahamian dollar · Barbadian dollar · Belize dollar · Bermuda dollar · Brunei dollar · Canadian dollar · Cayman Islands dollar · Cook Islands dollar · East Caribbean dollar · Fijian dollar · Guyanese dollar · Hong Kong dollar · Jamaican dollar · Kiribati dollar · Liberian dollar · Namibian dollar · New Zealand dollar· Singapore dollar · Solomon Islands dollar · Surinamese dollar · New Taiwan dollar · Trinidad and Tobago dollar· Zimbabwean dollar.

At least its better than the poxy EURO.

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