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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 21:05 
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BBC wrote:
1970s lifestyle 'protects planet'

In the 1970s the UK population was far slimmer than it is now
Getting back to the relatively slim, trim days of the 1970s would help to tackle climate change, researchers say.

The rising numbers of people who are overweight and obese in the UK means the nation uses 19% more food than 40 years ago, a study suggests.

That could equate to an extra 60 mega tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions a year, the team calculated.

Transport costs of a fatter population were also included in the International Journal of Epidemiology study.

Dr Phil Edwards, study leader and researcher at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, said they had set out to calculate what the UK energy consumption would be if the weight of the population was put back a few decades.

Staying slim is good for health and for the environment

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A "normal" adult population, where only 3.5% are classed as obese, was compared with a population where 40% are obese.

These populations reflect the proportions of overweight and obese people living in the UK in the 1970s - and what is predicted for the UK in 2010, the researchers said.

In addition to calculating the increased food costs of the heavier population, the team worked out how much additional fuel would be needed for transportation of modern-day UK compared with the 1970s version.

Greenhouse gas emissions from food production and car travel in the fatter population would be between 0.4 to 1 giga tonnes higher per 1bn people, they estimated.

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And people are generally bigger than they were three decades ago.

Between 1994 and 2004, the average male body mass index (BMI) in England increased from 26 to 27.3, with the average female BMI rising from 25.8 to 26.9 which equates to about 3 kg - or half a stone - heavier.

"This is not really just about obese people, the distribution of the whole population is what's important," said Dr Edwards.

"Everybody is getting a bit fatter."

"Staying slim is good for health and for the environment.

"We need to be doing a lot more to reverse the global trend towards fatness, and recognise it as a key factor in the battle to reduce emissions and slow climate change."

It is not just a UK issue - in nearly every country in the world, the average BMI is rising.

Professor Alan Maryon-Davis, president of the Faculty of Public Health said shifting the population weight distribution back to that of the 1970s would do quite a lot to help the planet.

"In the 1970s we had bigger portions of vegetables and smaller portions of meat and there's been a shift in the amount of exercise we do.

"All these things are combining to hurt the planet and this is a calculation that deserves a bit more attention," he said.


Umm . Edwardians? :popcorn:

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It's true though. As a teenager in the 70's, everyone walked to school and I don't remember having any fat girls in our class, maybe one or two in the whole year and probably only one or two fat lads, look at all the school kids now!!!

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Dosen't say a lot for America then.

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In particular, it's the trend toward a more Amerikan diet that is making the world fatter.

1) Too many calories

.High glycemic indices multiplied by too many calories equals high glycemic loads
.Refined 'natural' sweeteners, most notably high-fructose-cornsyrup
.Artificial sweeteners

.Too much Saturated Fat increases LDL cholesterol
.Hydrogenated Fat - including 'partially' hydrogenated fat - corrupt cellular membranes, hormones, and cardiovascular function
.Overabundance of omega6 fatty acids plus insufficient omega3 fatty acids promotes cancer risks, blood clots, and autoimmune diseases

.Too much protein, mostly from commercially raised meat and poultry, instead of fish and/or vegetable protein, leading to overconsumption of hormones, antibiotics, and other chemical additives and environmental toxins resulting from the manner in which meat and poultry are 'housed', 'fed', and 'cared for'

2) Not enough vitamins, minerals, fiber, or protective phytochemicals

.Not enough brightly colored and/or green fruits and vegetables (you could stop here; doubling or tripling your fruit-&-veggie intake makes your diet more boring, but also makes you healthier)
.Preference for high-glycemic vegetables and grains such as potatoes and refined grains

Case in point:
Go to three different fast-food restaurants. Especially in the case of originally Amerikan franchises, do the descriptions above not seem like a set of instructions for the design of their menus?
Dr Andrew Weil wrote:
Fast food has been one of the most unhealthful dietary developments in human history. It is mostly an Amerikan invention of the late twentieth century, one that they are busily exporting all over the world.

Every culture that has been infected by 'fast foods' has not only trended towards obesity, but more importantly, has seen higher frequency and severity of degenerative and autoimmune diseases, coupled with more rapid progression of them.

Don't forget about increased tendencies to hypertension, heart disease, cancer, impaired immunity and healing responses, arthritis, bursitis, tendinitis, and more aches and pains as we age less gracefully, become more lethargic, and crankier.

Oh, and double your water intake.

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Surely the cost of food includes the transportation costs already?

Also there's two ways to be thin, not eat much and eat lots but exercise more. Does the latter have any saving in food costs over being fat?

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A wealth of anecdotal evidence suggests that eating slightly more than required to avoid dying tends toward the longest yet most unenviable life possible. That's right out because it's no fun at all. The major advantage today in this strategy is the avoidance of toxic additives riding along in today's foods.

As far as exercise is concerned, let's be honest, those who are truly diligent at it, yet are not paid primarily to be athletes, overtrain somewhat. If you aren't paid to be athletic - either dancing for more than ten minutes straight, and/or sex, is/are the most strenuous non-exercise activity in your life, you don't need to exercise more than twice a week, truthfully. If you do, you've probably experienced a mild to moderate injury of some sort, which, like it or not, requires additional food, plus additional medical costs, if not immediately, then later on.

I guess my point is that you should not exercise more than twice a week, to minimize the possibility of injury, the additional costs of that much more food, plus the transit to and from both food and possibly the gym.

On the other hand, being fat probably costs as much as being fit in terms of food, possibly more. Nevermind the medical costs concordant with being overweight, what with the distinct increased possibility of other cardiovascular and skeletal issues.

The vast majority of those who exercise with the proper intensity and frequency - too much of either increases the chance of injury, I vote for twice a week unless you get paid to look or be athletic - will overeat if they are not getting enough water, vegetables, and fruits.

Remember: anything that isn't a fruit or a vegetable in general is not as nutritionally dense. Manufactured 'food' products in particular are not anywhere near as nutritionally dense, never have nutrients in the right balance for optimal absorption, and have stuff that doesn't belong, which creates additional caloric and nutritional demands which never get met by eating additional 'food' products.

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