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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 15:44 
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DOZENS of Boxing Day shoppers were hit with parking fines after wardens went on a ticketing spree - claiming it was not a public holiday.

Surprised motorists returned to vehicles parked in pay and display spaces off Bridge Street, in Manchester city centre, to find the £30 parking tickets on the windscreen - despite notices on pay machines stating that charges are exempt on public holidays.

According to one motorist, when they argued the point with traffic wardens, they were told it couldn't be a holiday because the traffic wardens themselves were working.

Twenty cars parked in 28 spaces on Stanley Street, Salford, were given tickets shortly after midday yesterday.

Eleven of the 12 cars parked in nearby Browncross Street at the same time were also booked - but one driver escaped the charge because he paid the £2 parking fee after wardens warned him he would get a ticket.

Signs on pay machines at each location lay out daily parking charges but clearly state: "Except Public Holidays".

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Michael Entwistle, 48, of Prestwich, was about to park in Browncross Street when he spotted wardens dishing out penalty notices. He said: "I was livid. People were perfectly within their rights to park there yet they were being given tickets. When I asked a warden why he was ticketing he told me Salford council said it wasn't a bank holiday."

A bank holiday differs from a public holiday, although Boxing Day is recognised as the latter and motorists should have been exempt, according to the parking signs. Peter Bird, 53, from Whitefield, narrowly escaped a ticket after leaving his car for three hours in a spot near the junction of Bridge Street and Stanley Street.

He said: "I showed them in my diary that the tickets could not be valid but they just told me they were moving on to my row of cars next and wished me Merry Christmas. I hope anyone who got a ticket appeals it."

A Salford council spokesman said: "Parking enforcement is carried out on our behalf by NCP. If the signs clearly indicate that no tariff should be enforced, those tickets would not be applicable.

"In the event a mistake has been made, we apologise to the drivers affected and urge them to contact us through the details on the back of their tickets."

Council parking bosses were off work yesterday due to the public holiday.

Three years ago, on Boxing Day, wardens slapped tickets on cars parked on single yellow lines in Chapel Street, Yorkshire Street and Quay Street.

Nearby parking signs stated there were no restrictions on motorists parking on single yellow lines after certain times and on Sundays and Bank Holidays.

NCP Services, who carry out parking enforcement for Salford City Council today admitted that their wardens had made a mistake.

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James Pritchard, NCP Services communications manager, said: “We did make a mistake yesterday. We had staff out and about enforcing as normal against dangerous parking such as parking on double yellow lines. A couple of people on the contract made an honest mistake in thinking that the pay and display bays were still in force.

“We acknowledge that the tickets were issued in error and apologise to anyone who got one. We are trying to trace all the tickets and they will be cancelled. People do not need to take any action but if they want to double check their ticket has been cancelled they can contact the parking shop number on the back of the ticket. We hope anyone affected still had a lovely Christmas.”

He confirmed that public and bank holiday parking in all local authorities is covered by traffic management orders which state that all parking regulations apply as normal except where it is specified otherwise.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 16:08 
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We had staff out and about enforcing as normal against dangerous parking such as parking on double yellow lines.


Oh good, so I assume they won't bother enforcing the miles of double yellows on which it's perfectly safe to park but which just happen to be within a few hundred yards of a nearby (probably NCP-operated) paid-for car parking area...

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We are trying to trace all the tickets and they will be cancelled. People do not need to take any action but if they want to double check their ticket has been cancelled they can contact the parking shop number on the back of the ticket.


No doubt the "parking shop number" will be an o870, gouging yet more cash.
Those guys have got some nerve...


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No doubt the "parking shop number" will be an o870, gouging yet more cash.
Those guys have got some nerve...


Know it's been put up before some time ago -so here it is again --

http://www.saynoto0870.com/

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 18:41 
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We hope anyone affected still had a lovely Christmas.

Lying, patronising, parasitic scum.

No way am I ever going to park in one of NCP's car parks. Even if this racket stops, I'm still not going to. If only all drivers knew what they were up to, their profits would be rightly decimated.

It's time that councils and contractors were penalised for issuing incorrect tickets. At the moment there's no disincentive: at best, the victim is intimidated into paying despite the ticket being invalid, and at worst, they've only wasted the cost of printing the ticket, whereas the victim still has to mess around to sort it out. Perhaps if the victim had to be automatically compensated for each incorrect ticket, the percentage of tickets that were valid would become remarkably high all of a sudden. Money is the only language they understand.

Of course, that's the wider problem: council parking enforcement is invariably about money and never about keeping traffic moving or reserving spaces for those who are entitled to them. It'll never be fair until it's changed. And yet, incredibly, the government is talking about letting councils adjudicate on appeals. So now they'll get to decide on where yellow lines go, make money from their enforcement, and adjudicate on appeals. Might as well just give them our cashpoint cards and pin numbers. Once again the motorist is regarded as fair game.

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Try our lone warden for size ,and it all goes to the Treasury /Courts :shock:

how's this for productivity

Don't know where she patrols - I've never seen her .
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botach wrote:
Try our lone warden for size ,and it all goes to the Treasury /Courts :shock:

how's this for productivity

Don't know where she patrols - I've never seen her .
:o :o

I couldn't get that to work for some reason, but this seems to do the trick.

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problems to shopkeepers

From what I've read, most shopkeepers these days have a problem with unnecessary parking restrictions and draconian enforcement, which encourage customers to go out of town instead, rather than "illegal parkers". Granted the cases I've read about have usually been in places like London rather than Warwickshire. I do get the impression though that councils only listen to people like shopkeepers when they say what they want them to say.

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What's that Guys name who campaigns on this "parking fine" issue?......oh! He's been on Radio 5 and Talksport at night several times? Anyone remember? He has a website I know he does...... :?

He's contested parking fines all over the Country and never paid one yet and gives out free advice!

Doh!....


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“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
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