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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 09:10 
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You've go to read this, Browns big answer... everyones shitting it about the economy, the price of food, the price of fuel etc etc - and Browns big answer, as the person employed for run the country is "Stop wasting food"........ that's the best him and his little fucking team of shit kickers can come up with, "oi you lot... stop wasting food and it'll all be ok" -- I am completely dismayed, I cannot believe how utterly without ideas they are.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7492573.stm

There's also the usual drivvel about climate change (something which is fortunately being forgotten about for the time being whilst people realise living in the present is a damn sight more important right now)


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The people feeling the pinch dont waste food. The people who waste food, fully stock the fridge and then decide to have a meal out. To help the people fealing the pinch he needs to reduce transport/fuel costs making the food cheaper.

raising interest rates will not halt inflatoion caused by a credit crunnch or rising essential commodities. It will only reduce inflation caused by people over consuming on luxuery goods. It should have been used over the previous few years, not now.

You are not alone,. I was spitting feathers at the news this morning.

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Surely a major cause of wasted food is the fact that portion sizes for ready meals, takeaways and meals in restaurants are generally half as much again as a normal person would want or need. And this is presented as a good thing :loco:

Reminds me of when I was a kid and my mum would say "Come on, eat that all up – there are starving children in Africa!" I never quite got that one – couldn't the surplus food have been sent to the starving children?

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As true as that is Pete the sad fact is that as Anton points out those really struggling are already doing the sensible thing of cutting down on waste.
I already try to buy what I need (though unfortunately I've yet to find Hovis sold in half loafs for people living alone), I drive as little as possible, cycle as much as possible, use as little energy (electrics/gas - I do excersise!) as possible etc - so for Gordon Brown to come out with this somewhat pathetic statement is nothing but annoying. Those who are struggling do all these things, him and his Labour government are doing absolutely nothing to ease the burden - the key thing that COULD do (but wont) is stop being so wasteful themselves so that they can ease the pressure on us.


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Labour's solution to big just-can't-get-our-heads-round-it problems has always been to start trying to change individuals' behaviour that won't make a scrap of difference.

I'm reminded of that great clip on Andrew Marr's history of post-war Britain of some politician trying to persuade British Women not to adopt the Dior "New Look", for fear of using up their clothing rations....

Though I can't swear blind it was a Labour politician, it wouldn't surprise me.


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There is far more wastage from industry than from private individuals, and all in the name of health and safety.

A good friend of mine many years ago used to work in a factory that produced pies. He told me that one day they threw away a tonne of boiled carrots because they were surplus to requirement. If they had sold them on, or given them away, then they would have been liable in the event that anyone got ill... :cry:

The fact that it is quite possible to live as a 'fregan' or however you want to spell it, is testament to how much food is wasted by supermarkets etc.

Gordon Brown can shove is pathetic comments up his a*se.

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I'm thoroughly sick of our politicians from all parties. They seem to have no idea about how much things cost.

We waste virually no food. The little we do throw out goes to our chickens and we get free eggs. Vegetable peelings get composted. We try not to waste water or fuel and we try to shop locally for most things with a longer drive to the supermarket once a month for non-perishable goods. We have been doing all of these things since long before it became a trendy thing for media types to do. We don't have satellite TV or mobile phone contratcs (just a rarely used PAYG). We don't smoke and don't drink a lot. There is now virtually nothing left that we can do to save more money. We even cancelled the papers and resorted to buying own-brand cornflakes and still we can't make ends meet. Gordon Brown is a total c**t and if he wants to swap incomes with me I would be delighted. I bet him and his family waste more in a week than we do in a year.

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Don't forget it was the EU who banned feeding waste food (a.k.a. swill) to pigs. Now it gets thrown away and pigs eat special feed made from grain/corn which could be given to humans instead.

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Its nice to see he is doing his bit

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... talks.html


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Gordon Brown and his fellow world leaders have sparked outrage after it was disclosed they enjoyed a six-course lunch followed by an eight-course dinner at the G8 summit where the global food crisis tops the agenda.

The Prime Minister was served 24 different dishes during his first day at the summit – just hours after urging the world to reduce the "unnecessary demand" for food and calling on British families to cut back on their wasteful use of food.

Mr Brown and his wife Sarah were among 15 guests at the "blessings of the earth and the sea social dinner".

The dinner consisted of 18 dishes in eight courses including caviar, smoked salmon, Kyoto beef and a "G8 fantasy dessert".

I do hope they ate up every single little bit :P

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I thought this claptrap would've been picked up here.

Amongst the lecturing they're going on about "2 for 1" offers as encouraging people to buy what they don't need and will throw.

The joke being the bulk of "2 for 1"'s are supermarkets getting rid of short dated/overstock to avoid throwing it themselves! :roll:

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PeterE wrote:
steve_k wrote:


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Gordon Brown and his fellow world leaders have sparked outrage after it was disclosed they enjoyed a six-course lunch followed by an eight-course dinner at the G8 summit where the global food crisis tops the agenda.

The Prime Minister was served 24 different dishes during his first day at the summit – just hours after urging the world to reduce the "unnecessary demand" for food and calling on British families to cut back on their wasteful use of food.

Mr Brown and his wife Sarah were among 15 guests at the "blessings of the earth and the sea social dinner".

The dinner consisted of 18 dishes in eight courses including caviar, smoked salmon, Kyoto beef and a "G8 fantasy dessert".

I do hope they ate up every single little bit :P


*massive great big huge sigh of giving up* "Do as I say, not as I do" says Brown as he gulps down 8 courses and burns £10 notes whilst stuffing fifties up consultants bums


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 Post subject: Re: Our wonderful leader
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Just noticed this Gem near the bottom of the article too.

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He arrived on a plane chartered from Texas, America, which had to fly empty for thousands of miles to pick up the Prime Minister and his entourage.


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This is followed up today with the news that they spent a "throughout the night" negotiations banging on about 'climate change' with each other, this morning they've come to the landmark decision to... cut carbon emissions by at least 50%... yay. In a time where we're all struggling JUST what we need is more 'targets' for Carbon Emissions which will result in higher food and energy prices as stupid stricter controls are placed on manufacturers.

Check out the article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-p ... 494702.stm

Not only that, you'll that despite being up all night (it's a hard life for them leaders) after their hearty meals yesterday they haven't been able to even come up with an excuse for the high oil & food prices.

I have a theory... I think leaders like this fictional Climate Change (some of them might even believe it's real), they like it because they can set targets and say important looking things which seem to commit them to the cause. All these commitments, however, are 10, 20, 30 or 40 years away, so they don't need to worry about whether anything actually comes of it, or if the targets are reached, as they'll all be long gone by then. They can seem to be doing something without doing anything whilst at the same time increasing taxes and making more money. In my opinion the biggest discussion at this years G8 (behind closed doors that is) will be how to reignite peoples belief in Climate Change during an time of economic downturn. That's, in my opinion, probably what the leaders consider the biggest challenge right now.


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This just confirms that politicians don't inhabit the same world as everyone else.

How can they attend a meeting where the topics of dicussion include a lack of food in the world and not realise that sitting down to a gross feast will be seen as an insult to their people.

It also shows that they are all the same the world over.

(Nice wine list though. Ridge Monetebello huh...)

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It goes deeper.
We are [not so] slowly being [re]turned to a subsistence economy of poverty and low-consumption.

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But where you do not sow, neither do you reap. The green policy of reducing farm output is the reason for the shortages that are forcing up prices. For years now, environmentalists have been telling us that we are too greedy. Now they have got their way, and are forcing people to consume less.


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Environmentalists are feeling a bit nervous lately that economic recession will undermine their cause. So rather than accept responsibility for their own actions, they are busy putting the blame on President George W Bush for his biofuel policy, and on farmers for following it.


http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/5437/

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Everyone is to blame, except those that ARE to blame.
Those that are to blame have the "ear" of the government[s] and the media industry.
I consider that the basic "green" agenda consists of nothing less than economically-inspired genocide.
At the end of the day, they want a lower world population, by whatever means.
Gutters filled with corpses would be a valid means, for them.

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I feel that is a bit harsh on most people who support the "green" nonsense. I think there are only a handful of people who genuinely want lower consumption and lower standard of livings and would be happy to see that come about by way of mass starvation / poverty. Now the problem is these few started the movement, came up with (quite brilliant, really) ways to get people onside and as such there are now millions of followers who really think they are saving the world, completely ignorant to the fact they are actually damaging our lives and likely to cause serious problems the world over.


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A salesman once told me on one trick he learnt in training -when asked a perticularly awkard question reply "now that's a good question sir -why would you want to know that "-very disarming.(Saying in his part of the world -"everybodies out of step but our Jock" and one that sums him right up -"takes a long spoon to sup with a Fifer" - ) :lol:

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I feel that is a bit harsh on most people who support the "green" nonsense. I think there are only a handful of people who genuinely want lower consumption and lower standard of livings and would be happy to see that come about by way of mass starvation / poverty. Now the problem is these few started the movement, came up with (quite brilliant, really) ways to get people onside and as such there are now millions of followers who really think they are saving the world, completely ignorant to the fact they are actually damaging our lives and likely to cause serious problems the world over.


I have always maintained that the "Real" reason why the Greens hate nuclear power is because they are affraid that it works and can deliver the goods!

With sufficent energy ALL other problems are solveable!

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Agreed on Nuclear - it's clearly the answer. Society made a massive step forward when that technology was developed but idiots have got in the way and set us back - now we're going back to technology that was used in the fucking pre-electricty times - WIND POWER...

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