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The world runs on oil, period. No other substance can compete when it comes to energy density, flexibility, ease of handling, ease of transportation. If oil didn’t exist we would have to invent it.”

56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing

The centre is currently taking data from 10,502 ANPR enabled cameras, totalling 14m hits per day.
14M / 10,502 /24(hours) / 60(min) = 0.9 hits per camera per minute ...

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Forget the insurance/MOT side of things -if a high percentage of those are non taxed cars -well, we can see why Whitehal is so worried - capital offence ,not paying tax ,whereas mugging old lady gets wrist slapped ,till mugger takes her tax disc/ council tax payment .

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

As ACPO are involved, I'd say it's more like monitoring who's where and when. If they catch people with no tax it's a bonus.

I wonder how many more ANPR cameras the British people will see being added over the next year or so? Not to mention any other camera's they have installed, and will know doubt carry on installing.

Take care
Dixie

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Most of the new cctv cameras can be used for anpr data.

http://www.bedfordtoday.co.uk/541/VIDEO-Youre-nicked-in-police.6024282.jp

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The world runs on oil, period. No other substance can compete when it comes to energy density, flexibility, ease of handling, ease of transportation. If oil didn’t exist we would have to invent it.”

56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing

I wonder how much it would take for these ANPR cameras to be able to read Chip and Pin, or similar RFID information?

Take care
Dixie

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

Do I detect a feeling that there's more to this than info gathering /catching tax dodgers?

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

I take it by your happy smiley you are quite happy with chip and pin. I’d now have to ask the question, would you be happy for the population to be Micro Chipped?

Take care
Dixie

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

Like a dog perhaps Dixie? Na, wouldn't work. Dogs don't know or care whereas we would. Besides, I could see an opening, literally, of a service which removes them unless it is also made illegal to remove them of course.

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Without being ridiculed. What if the PTB where to make it mandatory in order to buy or sell anything? All in the name of terrorism of course.

Take care
Dixie

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

Oooooo...

I'm glad you're not working for them Dixie

Cheers bud

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Any system is only as good as the ability to 'fool' it.
With ANPR so widely active does not a criminal either steel a car or change the plates, then the system is useless. The stolen car leads back the the registered user who has nothing to do with it and the false plates potentially are a dead end. All they can then do is hope to catch the stolen car or stop that false plate.

So if an entire system is so easy to fool by those they claim to intend to catch what is it's purpose.
The pre-terror activities might use 'registered vehicles' but is that really likely. Don't suppose any FOI request would be allowed ?

So what else can it be used for - well catching motorists and having them pay for something that is highly questionable.
So who else might it catch - the odd stolen car ? Trackers seem to do that ...
What else ? Registered vehicles movements are the aim so why? Road charging? Speed enforcement? Highly likely.
Will it make drivers better no. Will it make them feel paranoid / persecuted yes in varying degrees.

So then why keep the data for two years? -for later prosecutions?

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And are you supposing that the chip be implanted either under the skin of ones forehead or beneith the skin of ones right palm perchance??

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"The road to a police state is paved with public safety legislation"

Maybe they would want to plant it somewhere more intimate on the men so they can check your religion while they’re at it.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Therers a way round that one!

Though I bet it made your eyes water (especially back in classical greece when there were no anaesthetics! )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epispasm

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"The road to a police state is paved with public safety legislation"

I can't believe it would look the same as a natural one. All that pulling and stretching might work but wouldn't it end up looking like Joan Rivers's face?

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

I don't know how accurate this article is and how true it is but?

Greece is NWO Test Ground, Says Greek Reader

If Greece is on it's way out, who will be next, and the next, and the next?

And look what happened to this guy because he spoke out about our PTB.

Robert Green

Until the British people stand up to our masters nothing will ever be done, that's why I still believe all speed cameras should be removed from the British roads ASAP. And that goes for all the rotten eggs with them.

Take care
Dixie

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

Wrpong smilie ,Dix -looking back should have been a sarcastic one .Chip + pin -never use it - got a few reliable cash points I use .If in doubt ,only a quick phone call to transfer funds to my savings account, then take cash out of that -anyone cloning that card gets a nasty shock =nil pounds .As for micro chip - why bother -there's things like mobile usage ,loyality cards etc etc and the Gov't known inability to get any IT project off the ground .

I often wonder if ANPR/SPECS is the UKs answer to Galileo - given that any fixed transmitter in a car can "suffer " from problems from any wideband generator ( i.e a simple spark generator) ,and to back that up ,ask if anyone has succesfully installed an AM radio in a Relient .

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

I don't use chip and pin myself, I prefer cash. I do believe thought that the populace will be forced into using chip and pin. If you read the post about Greece you will notice that people are having to use either credit cards or cheques (and cheques are already on their way out) for amounts over 1,500 euro, how long before it applies to all? a cashless society. All in the name of terrorism of course, and yet our PTB are the biggest terrorist going.

Take care
Dixie

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.