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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 19:43 
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We received an order from RS today for six ICs. They are what’s known as timers, (miniature 555), but to anyone who doesn’t know the component it’s about the size of a woodlouse. You could get about a hundred of them in an eggcup. The ringed area in red is the area they occupy. They came in a tube, which was in a static bag which was in the box you can see complete with extra paper packaging.

Beat that! Four of us were just looking on in amazement :o

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/29 ... page5.html

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I'm sorry Lum, I don't know if I'm doing something wrong but the links within your two links don't take me to an actual story.

It's crazy that in this modern day and age we are using this amount of packaging for something which could have been put in the smallest bag Jiffy make.

It gave us a laff, so I suppose it had some value. Unbelievable, truly unbelievable! And there's me at home separating glass and plastic and cardboard and Uranium 232 and .........

Stop the madness!

Shame on you RS!!!! :x

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At least yours ICs came in a thin box Tone:

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(OK not from RS, but still a volume manufacturer)

Last year we had 8 AA cells come in a box, within a box, within a box:

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I'm sorry Lum, I don't know if I'm doing something wrong but the links within your two links don't take me to an actual story.


They should be just links directly to the story.

The second one has a computer mouse that was delivered in a cardboard box shrink wrapped to a pallet.
The first one is more complicated.


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Lum wrote:
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I'm sorry Lum, I don't know if I'm doing something wrong but the links within your two links don't take me to an actual story.


They should be just links directly to the story.

The second one has a computer mouse that was delivered in a cardboard box shrink wrapped to a pallet.
The first one is more complicated.

Ah, that's not what's happening to me but I'll persevere.. (Just noticed it comes up with 'error on page', could be my browser)

I think you may have beat me Steve but to get a winner we need to accurately measure the volume of the items to the volume of the container as a percentage. But there again we need to factor in the cost of the packaging and disposability re-usability etc.

This could get very complicated :scratchchin: I think I'm still ahead based on my criteria though Steve :D

(BTW it's not obvious from my shot but the box is about 3" x 2" X 18". I should have stuck a 50p coin there :) )

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RS ( or in my day Radio Spares) would most probably have put the static bag inside a box the size of Steve's and filled the box with poly chips .
What would be more lucicrous ,in my case ,would be to order from RS and get that sent ,when if I could collect ,I could get it inside an hour .
Anyone noticethe need now to provide a certifateof conformity ( whether or not you need it ) .OK, BT might need it for his work ,but i wouldn't need it for DIY electronics ,but we've all got to pay for it .

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Anyone noticethe need now to provide a certifateof conformity ( whether or not you need it )
:yesyes:

Of course RS never make anything, they’re just middle men, and basically source their goods from anywhere and everywhere. With resistors, for instance, I think you would have to ask for the statement of conformity but TBH I don’t do anything like as much electronic design or bespoke these days.

The things I use are classed as medical devices and need to be CE marked. The days were we could switch-adapt a Friedland door chime as a very basic means of attention calling for a patient have gone. It has to be a £70 thing now. (So much for the 'Lean' process).

I don’t like modern life. :( All the nice things you used to be able to do have gone and there’s no going back as we pass through the diode of life...

Nice times :D ----¦>¦---- Bad times :(

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I did once have to send down a 5ft empty box just with some packing in to pick of a model helicopter fuselage. :) :heli1: The couriers who had picked it up said it was just in a bag ! So I sent down the box - it was large enough that I could lie in it ! Still it did have a genuine purpose !
I have had some similar silly large packaging ! None so bad as below though !
I think the packaging depts. only have certain boxes and so that coupled with people with no imagination or knowledge and need to just package up everything they just grab the nearest box ! :headbash:

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Well I hope you don't get in another box big enough to lie in for a very long time ;)

On a similar theme of packaging, I had news from a trusted source that all the separating we do for plastic and paper etc. is wasted. Someone I know well was shown by a worker at a popular public waste site in my city what is actually saved or reused. The only thing they're interested in, he was shown, was anything metal like cans etc.

My friend looked incredulous until he was told where the landfill is and where our painstaking separating of rubbish often ends up. Probably not a good idea to say where it is but suffice to say what can't speak can't lie. I'm sure it's good for statistics about how good our Government are doing with the recycling issue though.

What's that saying about there are lies, damn lies and...

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Big Tone wrote:
On a similar theme of packaging, I had news from a trusted source that all the separating we do for plastic and paper etc. is wasted.


Oh what a surprise. :o And speaking of tips, soryr Refuge Amenity Sites, why is that I can freely take my own rubbish to them but if I hire someone else to do it he has to pay to dump the same rubbish.

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Big Tone wrote:
On a similar theme of packaging, I had news from a trusted source that all the separating we do for plastic and paper etc. is wasted. Someone I know well was shown by a worker at a popular public waste site in my city what is actually saved or reused. The only thing they're interested in, he was shown, was anything metal like cans etc.


...it is all a numbers/box-ticking "game"

My council (Birmingham) started collecting garden waste a couple of years ago. We all get special green sacks for grass cuttings, hedge clippings etc., and these are collected for free!

In the summer there can literally be dozens of green bags plus a handful of "normal" black bags awaiting collection each week (no wheelies yet, thank goodness!).

It seems very strange, collecting all of the extra waste until you realise - the council can now claim that they recycle 75% (or whatever) of waste, and what an environmentally bunch of people they are! The fact that the non-recyclable (black bag) waste is exactly the same as before doesn't matter - they can tick that EU/green/tree-hugger box on their sustainability enviro-equality form and delude themselves that they are helping the planet :roll:

Shame that their "planet" is completely different to the one that we all live on ;)

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Oh what a surprise. :o And speaking of tips, soryr Refuge Amenity Sites, why is that I can freely take my own rubbish to them but if I hire someone else to do it he has to pay to dump the same rubbish.


You also have to pay if you're using the wrong kind of vehicle.
VW Caddy van advertising a computer services company, you have to pay even though you're disposing of an old mattress.
Volvo 940 Estate that holds an awful lot more than that caddy van, just fine. People in hulking great L200 pickups are fine too.


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Oh what a surprise. :o You also have to pay if you're using the wrong kind of vehicle.
YES! I know! :bounce1:

About three years ago, when my car had a tow bar, I went to my local tip with a small trailer. Then some jobsworth tosspot asked me if I have "filled in the form?" What :censored: form!!!

Apparently there is a form which, if I had enquired and got one posted to me, entitled me to six such tippings. He also lectured me on the size of my trailor which was within limits fortuunately but don't jobsworths just love to tell you how clued-up they are.

Oh and I'm in Birmingham but he wanted to know my postcode because it may have been under Bromsgrove City Council instead so I would have to tropes 15 miles across traffic to take it elsewhere. And they wonder why some people fly tip! Who appoints these pillocks! :x

He relented after I 'Carnegied' him on what a fine job he is doing and how it's the nicest one I've been to and I'm so so sorry.

Sure lied through my teeth that day...

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Big Tone wrote:

I don’t like modern life. :( All the nice things you used to be able to do have gone and there’s no going back as we pass through the diode of life...

Nice times :D ----¦>¦---- Bad times :(

;)


One of these days we'll get to the stage of full wave rectification ,and maybe back to times of yore - when all things passing through a bridge are positive ( and those in the negative can be dumped to ground ) , ans the output is double the frequency with no negative spikes :D :D ,or the bridge is actually a modulator and all negative ideas are too low to pass the resultant filter . :D :D :D

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