I am touched that Cam Op (while quoting that SCP, Police and other official bodies regard us as a laughing stock), was able to locate my post with remarks relevant to this thread!
What I said in the thread linked by Cam Op was:
Ernest Marsh wrote:
Icandoit wrote:
SafeSpeed wrote:
North Wales Police have issued a statement apologising for their error of judgement in displaying the dead biker pictures.
Outside various moral posturings, who do you think 'owns' the rights to these pictures? I'm not sure that Brunstrom's organisation has done anything particularly 'wrong' in showing them in a closed/private conference/lecture situation.
I presume the police have used pictures of crashed vehicles in various situations before. I presume that they have shown other pictures of dead road users for various reasons in the past. The news reports read as pretty second-hand. I think it is just the 'shock' value that people
presume is in these photos that is the problem.
, my criticism is based on this:
He briefly exposed a small number of invited people to an EXTREMELY harrowing image, while aiming the event at a wider audience whom he says trivialise road deaths.
In other words, in order to get a shocking message across to a small number of people, he showed
an entirely different small number of people an extremely shocking picture.
How did he expect them to communicate THEIR shock to the others without making reference to what they had been shown?
If they were to keep quiet, then why show them - it simply served no useful purpose!
It was at best inept, and his attitude since the event shows he STILL feels his ineptness was not a problem.
No problem - this "victim" is still alive to ask, observing all legal niceties hinted at in my quoted post.
In the case of Mr Brundstrom, he used pictures of a victim out of context at the press release he was managing, and without a thought for the dead mans family.
Quote:
The image showed the man’s head with his eyes still open lying on a grass verge. In another shot the torso is embedded into a car.
North Wales Police Chief Superintendent Geraint Anwyl said the head was torn off by the force of the impact, he explained: “His oxygenated brain went flying down the road for 50 metres, before he expired. It’s horrific, I’m sure you’ll agree.”
His actions were judged by others to be callous, not just myself, but MPs, and senior police officers.
Medical experts contested the assertion that the oxygenated brain was still capable of comprehension, as alluded to in the description.
On the matter of the hypocritical behaviour thread, I think I described my thinking on this issue in this post:
Ernest Marsh wrote:
I suggest it is well worth while reading RB's blog - there are some great contradictions in there, as well as an attempted defence of his use of a motorcyclists head as a prop for his pro-camera campaign.
He also refers to those opposed to his ideas as "Flat Earthers" and dismisses our concerns out of hand, yet reacts against criticism of his own!
Aspirin more dangerous than ecstasy? Yes, there have been more mentions of aspirin in coroners reports, than ecstasy according to Richard... of course the fact that FAR more people have access to aspirin seems to have completely escaped him!
Perhaps he should look to see how many times water was mentioned in coroners reports!!
His blog also records a visit to his home by a reporter from the Mirror, to ask his wife if he had left home, in April 2007.
It appears from the (now edited) post on PistonHeads, that RB's colleagues are starting to ask questions... not least perhaps, is if he has taken leave of his senses on some issues!
I bow to In Gears inside experience and knowledge on this, but I cannot see the public maintaining their confidence in a senior officer of the law, who is unable to even stick to his marriage vows, while rank and file members are less high profile and more likely to escape notice by the public?
It might not matter to Tesco whether the girl on the check out is seeing the young man in their warehouse "on the side" but a senior police officer could be open to blackmail, or at the very least exposure in the press, which might end his career.
I forget which one, but isn't there currently a recently ex senior officer who is under investigation for using police resources to conduct an affair?
For public confidence to be maintained, this latest matter needs to be "put to bed" as soon as possible, and if other officers are involved in disseminating the story, then they need to be a bit more forthcoming with evidence. Instead they seem to be arguing amongst themselves on PistonHeads! Even VonHosen is enjoined in the debate!
I appreciate Steve and others leaping to my defence, but apologise if Cam Op has failed to grasp the thrust of my arguments due to my not being clear enough, and hope I have shown from the threads he brought up that my intentions are directed at stopping the appalling number of accidents involving sub stations and the like.
I cannot think that the victim here would object to his fate being used to warn others - especially in view of his lucky escape with his life!
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