dcbwhaley wrote:
You have explained nothing. You have stated, as a matter of fact, that legally mandated purchases follow a different economic model to non mandated but necessary purchases. You have not, and cannot, justify that statement in terms that would be understandable to anyone versed in economic theory.
What was it you corrected me on ... : "
the number of clients [of the group] is guaranteed by law.", which I believe doesn't apply to shoes, houses, clothes, etc - yes?
Is that differentiation enough to affect the economic model? If your answer is "no" then just say so and we'll let the reader decide for themselves.
dcbwhaley wrote:
That would be a problem if a) premiums really were rocketing.
Google 'car insurance average costs'. The numbers within the top hits show that it is a genuine issue...
AA Insurance Premium Index wrote:
Annual Shoparound average for car cover jumps 40% in 12 months
dcbwhaley wrote:
Our premiums have fallen over the last few years.
"N = 1" fallacy! I've shown how your position is a minority one.
dcbwhaley wrote:
The cost of compensating each accident is rising.
Was that "stated, as a matter of fact" ?
Proof please!
dcbwhaley wrote:
And insurance also pays for repairs to damaged cars and it is no secret that modern construction makes the cost of repairing vehicles increase yearly.
By inflation busting proportions ... over and above the reductions associated with the falling casualty rate? Proof please!
dcbwhaley wrote:
Which is, effectively, that car insurance is not subject to normal market forces because you cannot choose whether or not to buy that insurance (which is in itself an inaccurate statement).
The correct statement is: you cannot legally choose whether or not to have insurance.
Conversely, you can legally choose whether or not to buy shoes, houses, clothes, food, etc.
Of course, You can always choose to not drive a car ... I think I may have unearthed something here
dcbwhaley wrote:
I countered that you cannot choose whether or not to eat but that the free market still operates very well in the grocery sector.
So please explain to me why the car insurance market is different to the grocery market.
For food, you are free to do the following; you can:
- eat an awful lot less (you are right when you said there is little cost difference between different levels of policy cover),
- switch to bread and water (there is no insurance equivalent of this),
- scrump wild fruit (there is no insurance equivalent of this),
- grow your own food (drivers can underwrite themselves, only if they have IIRC £100k or £1M cash laying around),
- do the food equivalent of a booze run. I wonder if I can be insured to drive in the UK by a company entirely located in South Africa ...
Governments will never let food producers make that much mark up on food, but we know ours will happily screw motorists

Your description of insurance companies "
spend money like drunken sailors" does suggest they are in a comfortable position - not something you would expect from those in real competition.
You had answered your own question, and I've directly answered several more. If you don't want to accept the answers then just say so. I really can't see how we can continue unless you contribute something worthwhile to this debate.