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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 13:11 
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A 'blue sky' and possibly mad idea...

Would speed limits work if they had a range modifier?

If the sign displays 60/20 that would mean that the range of appropriate (85%) speeds, in good conditions, for this signed section of road, will lie between 40 and 80mph.

If there is no secondary number then the range value should be considered to be 10mph.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 17:15 
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An idiot or someone in a desperate hurry would always use the upper limit, even if inappropriate. (If I understand your suggestion Toltec?).

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 17:51 
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Sorry, but I think this contributes to the misguided idea that numerical speed as such is an important factor in road safety.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 18:00 
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Surly you mean it is an important factor Peter, just not the only or main one :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 20:50 
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Speed relative to the conditions is, numerical speed as such isn't. Most people could drive entirely safely without a working speedometer.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 21:07 
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Most people could drive entirely safely without a working speedometer.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 00:05 
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Big Tone wrote:
An idiot or someone in a desperate hurry would always use the upper limit, even if inappropriate. (If I understand your suggestion Toltec?).


Do some drivers not already do that?

PeterE wrote:
Sorry, but I think this contributes to the misguided idea that numerical speed as such is an important factor in road safety.


The idea is partly to point out the opposite, that the speeds you need to be doing will vary and cannot be addressed by a single number. The other part of it is that the value for range should indicate the difficulty or complexity of the road ahead, the larger the range, the greater the hazards the driver will need to address.

PeterE wrote:
Speed relative to the conditions is, numerical speed as such isn't. Most people could drive entirely safely without a working speedometer.


I agree and would even add that many drivers would actually drive slower on certain types of road if they did not have a number to aim for. Realistically we are not going to get rid of speed limits, but maybe this would undermine the idea that you can stick a single number on a road and say it is to do with safety.

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