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Traffic calming measures are to placed on a road where four people were killed in a crash earlier this month.
Carmarthenshire Council will position the speed warning devices on the A474 Pontamman Road as soon as possible.
Other measures will also be looked at following the deaths of Natalie Malpas, 20, her brother Marc, 16, and brothers Aaron and Gavin Matthews, 16 and 19.
Police are investigating the cause of the accident but locals had complained of speeding before the crash.
The youngsters were in a Renault Megane car, which crashed into a garden wall on the approach to Ammanford around 2200BST on 7 September.
There had been four accidents resulting in minor injuries and two with serious injuries over five years prior to the fatal crash.
The council's director of technical services Richard Workman said temporary speed warning devices would be placed on the stretch of road, known locally as Glynmoch Flats, as soon as possible.
A speed detection exercise will be also be held next week to gather information on the levels of speeding on the road.
"This exercise forms part of the council's overall review of information from the accident," he said.
"We will be liaising with Dyfed-Powys Police and awaiting the outcome of their full accident report."
Residents living on the road had collected a petition calling for measures to tackle speeding on the days leading up to the crash.
Local councillor Kevin Madge said: "This was a terrible, tragic accident.
"Although the investigation into the accident is ongoing, and speed has not been established as the cause, it is of concern to the community."
At a meeting earlier this week town councillors in Ammanford heard a range of measures had been suggested since the accident.
These included reducing the 60mph limit on one stretch of the road to 50mph and building traffic islands to slow vehicles down.
A permanent speed camera was in place several hundred yards to the Ammanford side of the crash scene.

to paraphrase your title

"no proof, lets say speeding is not a factor anyway"

I refer to my earlier post on this tragic incident.

Why not wait and see. I see speed mentioned several times. I do not see any other factors mentioned. Looks like they have already made their minds up.

As have you, I suspect?

I rest my case.

What conclusion do you think I have come to...from what I have said

A knee jerk reaction to a knee jerk reaction is pointless, worthless even.

A knee jerk reaction to a knee jerk reaction is pointless, worthless even.