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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 15:23 
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The future of motorsport at the historic Italian race circuit at Monza near Milan has been thrown into doubt by a court ruling stating that cars competing in any future events at the venue, including the Formula One Italian Grand Prix, must be fitted with silencers.

Judge Marco Manunta upheld a complaint by residents of the town of Biassono, which lies adjacent to Monza track, who said their lives had been transformed into a living hell by the roaring of racing car engines at the circuit. A court order, issued earlier this week, banned all motor sport activities at Monza which involved "the use of vehicles not fitted with an appropriate silencing system".

A report in the La Gazzetta dello Sport newspaper quoted the judge as saying motor racing was a "superfluous, dangerous and socially useless activity that had a major impact on the environment".

The report also said that track’s management, which operates the circuit on behalf of its owners, the municipalities of Monza and Milan, would appeal against the ruling.

Riccardo De Corato, the deputy mayor of Milan said, "It is right to protect the environment but it is also right that we should avoid excesses that might wipe out important traditions."

(Source: Gazzetta dello Sport)



Looks like the "greens" have turned their guns on motorsport. I think we will get more stories like this one.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 16:14 
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Judge Marco Manunta upheld a complaint by residents of the town of Biassono, which lies adjacent to Monza track, who said their lives had been transformed into a living hell by the roaring of racing car engines at the circuit.


Monza Circuit, constructed in 1922.

Thus, we assume this 'transformation into a living hell' has occured very slowly over a period of 8 decades and that complainants are in their ninties (at least).

Or have their lives been transformed since they decided to move near to a racing circuit :roll:


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So if you live there its a bit like buying a house next to a church then complaining about the bell ringing.... :x

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unfortunately these people succeed all too often in their complaints. The pub-band in Sydney is just about dead due to all the people who move next door to existing venues - buying at a bargain price - and then successfully complaining about the noise - thus doubling their house price overnight. How or why the courts let them get away with it is beyond me.


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... motor racing was a "superfluous, dangerous and socially useless activity that had a major impact on the environment".



Let me change this slightly to see how it fits:

"... football matches are superfluous, dangerous and socially useless activities that have a major impact on the environment due to all the travelling involved by spectators and teams."

Wonder how popular this would be?

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malcolmw wrote:

Let me change this slightly to see how it fits:

"... football matches are superfluous, dangerous and socially useless activities that have a major impact on the environment due to all the travelling involved by spectators and teams."

You forgot to add the bit about the drunken violence that occurs both before & after the match (and sometimes in between), and the cost of having god knows how many old bill fighting a losing battle in keeping it contained.

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unfortunately these people succeed all too often in their complaints. The pub-band in Sydney is just about dead due to all the people who move next door to existing venues - buying at a bargain price - and then successfully complaining about the noise - thus doubling their house price overnight. How or why the courts let them get away with it is beyond me.


yeah, used to live in a flat opposite a very busy pub/gig venue in camden that wanted to extend their late licence from 1 till 2am, 'course the locality cryed their eyes out. evan though personally I'd rather not have had the drunks screaming at each other that much later at night- this was a main road in one of the busiest parts of town. FFS if you can't stand the heat get out the fire.

As for monza isn't that ferraris home test track? they've got about as much chance of banning loud cars as I've got of getting a phonecall from angelina jolie in the next ten minutes.

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Could you ask her for her autograph for me? :(

Up here in Cumbria, we have had successful and marginally successful appeals against the noise of the town hall clocks in Ulverston and Kendal, and a couple in Milnthorpe who decided, having moved in next to a farm, that they did'nt like the noise of the cock crowing, or the grunting of the pigs :x

Admittedly, the Kendal clock DOES play a medley of popular 19th century ditties, such as Men Of Harlech on the hour..! :lol:

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yeah, used to live in a flat opposite a very busy pub/gig venue in camden that wanted to extend their late licence from 1 till 2am

you can justify complaints about a change in circumstances but moving next to a something and then complaining about it is a completely different matter.


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And regarding airports: it is always the middle class wankers who complain about flight paths and expansion yet they are the very people who mostly use them. It's as if they enter another dimension between complaining about something then taking advantage of it.


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malcolmw wrote:
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... motor racing was a "superfluous, dangerous and socially useless activity that had a major impact on the environment".



Let me change this slightly to see how it fits:

"... football matches are superfluous, dangerous and socially useless activities that have a major impact on the environment due to all the travelling involved by spectators and teams."

Wonder how popular this would be?


Swap football matches for cycle races and take it over to C+. :lol:


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oh.. are we havign a whinge? excellent.

we have a lovely large park.. ideal for events & stuff.
they're never more than a weekends worth & are mostly just PA & hubbub (occasionally music based).

the local residents have already sued the council once for noise pollution.

so when you're looking for a nice location near the city, with plenty of space and parking etc .... you can't use it!

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