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Daily Express yesterday.



So they now want to put you off reporting your car stolen by telling you it's going to cost you £222.

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

and Hampshire had mine for 4 days increasing the car hire cost

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

And the PCSO wonder why we object.
I'd sooner pay a qualified mechanic to service my car properly than some "improver " to do a half cocked job, partially supervised.
Like policing - we get what we pay for - with so many half baked ,partially qualified "police " out on the streets - and so many "politically correct "promotions any one guess what's going wrong.


OR PERHAPS - the cop felt a moral obligation to omit to report the finding - keep another "child killing machine " off the road ( well it worked out side the "Israeli Embassy because he objected morally to the bombing of Lebanon")

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

But we have to pay rates on the pound....

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Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon - but driving with a smile and a COAST calm mind.

This is absolutely disgraceful.

Shouldn't the Police use their own car parks?

cant she sue the Police for not being "Fit for purpose"?

after all we do pay lots for then in our Council Tax!

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Welcome to the UK, the Land of "Selective Freedoms"

Its not the police who charge for the recovery its the rota garage who tender for the contract that set the recovery charge. Normally if the police have the vehicle recovered for examination then they pay the recovery charges incurred.

However, if your as in this case £7500 car is found then we contact the owner and inform them that it has been found and depending on the condition ie if its driveable, we give them the option of either collecting it themselves, or arranging for it to be collected by a garage or recovery agent, if they cant or dont know anyone then we offer to recover with one of our rota garages at there expense.

If they refuse then we leave it where it was found and this can lead to it being re stolen, vandalised or set on fire. If on the other hand it is a high value vehicle and we cant contact the owner then we have it recovered and the owner normally reclaims the cot of recovery back through insurance.

The problem is we cant sit with vehicles all night or be driving them to locations for safety as most are stolen with keys and if they havent been left with the car on abandonment then they cant be driven, we can never win no matter what we do.

I would like to ask is why did the owner when they found the car not just recover it and telephone the police to tell them that they had done so,by leaving it there to get stolen over and over again is the owners fault not the police.
Stephen

I thought that's what PCSOs are for?

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Firstly they dont work nights and secondly they dont/ wont sit with abandoned stolen or otherwise vehicles unless they have been specifically sent to it.
Stephen

However the quote (admittedly from the Daily Express) in the OP stated that the Police impounded the car for forensic examination - this implies that the owner would not have been allowed to drive it away from the scene.

If this is the case, then it is simply wrong for the owner to be charged in this way

Could such vehicles be (usefully) clamped to avoid them being moved further and arrange a mutually acceptable release time? Surely this would at least avert further nefarious movement/theft if the vehicle is generally secure - and such clamps could contain radiotransmitters to alert nearby plod of any unwarranted disturbance?

Ahh. You have found a use for a wheelclamp that doesn't involve extortion. Good.

(To be entirely fair and honest, I'm aware of some owners using wheelclamps on cars and caravans as a security device - and that's not extortion either.)

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If I were you I'd ask for a rate rebate on the grounds they were not delivering the services they promise!


This reminds me of the chap who calls the police to say his house is being broken into, while they are upstairs.
The dispatcher says they are busy, but will send a car... as soon as one becomes available.
The man puts the phone down, rings back and says "Take your time, I've shot and killed him."
Next minute three police cars pull up including an armed respose unit - and capture the would be burgalar.
"I thought you said you'd shot him" exclaims the officer.
"I thought you said youu were too busy to send a car immediately" replies the householder!

I forsee a problem with the clamp - frustrated scroats will probably scratch the car or trash it for spite.

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

Even if they know it is wired for sound and that they're likely to get caught in the act and have to pay for it?

You might be right, I'm so out of touch...

For once the wheelclamp would be preventing extortion.

Last time I had a car stolen the rates were £105 + £12 a day and they kept finding excuses not to release the car, first they were happy to take a cheque from my garage, then they were only happy to take it if they also had the garages letterhead (delivered, not faxed) then the letterhead had to actually have something written on it, then they would only take a cash.

They managed to con another £120 out of me through their expert faffing. Seriously not impressed.

Yeah - that would be seen as a challenge!!

If the police cannot babysit the car, they are hardly likely to get back to it intime to catch the culprits.

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

Or as happened a few years ago with council properties round here - the houses were secured and an alarm fitted - got a bit of a game to see who could nick the alarm in the shortest time, or before the security people arrived.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Interesting - do I understand the police have now been trained in valuing cars? If not, how is the distinction between a low and "high value" vehicle made?

I suspect this means that "posh" cars are recovered and the rest left? This smacks of the wealthy getting preferential treament?