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antera309
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Home Office officials said yesterday that fingerprints taken from drivers would not be recorded and would only be checked against those of criminals and suspects which are already stored on the national computer.


I'm sorry, but I don't trust them to keep this promise.

Even if they do, a majority of people tested will be innocent of any crime and will resent being "placed under suspicion". Public resentment towards the Police makes their job harder, not easier. Evidence gathered by "big brother" suveillance can never hope to equal that which they (currently) get from willing informants.

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:gatso2: :typing: Check out the AOL motoring news page. There's a poll going on and so far 51% are in favour. :? I think we can change that. :gossip:

http://motoring.aol.co.uk/motoring-news

Click on the link "crackdown on motoring offences"

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Check out the AOL motoring news page. There's a poll going on and so far 51% are in favour. :? I think we can change that.


I'm not surprised, to be honest. It's one of those things that seems like a good idea until you start to think about it. The "If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear" fallacy applies.

Post the link and I'll be happy to cast my vote. :) :twisted:

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I'm not surprised, to be honest. It's one of those things that seems like a good idea until you start to think about it. The "If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear" fallacy applies.

Post the link and I'll be happy to cast my vote. :) :twisted:


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Updated: 06:55, Wednesday December 06, 2006

A new system that will let air passengers sign up to voluntary biometric scanning and speed through security is being unveiled.

The system uses fingerprint technology to identify air travellers and fast-track them through airport checks.

Before they board they will be able to prove their identity and passport details with a quick fingerprint or iris scan at a self-service kiosk.

The system is being piloted at Heathrow's Terminal 3 and will be launched by Immigration Minister Liam Byrne and Heathrow CEO Tony Douglas.

Mr Byrne said: "Biometric ID systems are fundamental to securing our borders in a more mobile age.

"They are crucial to our plans for counting everyone in and out of the country. This proof of concept shows just how well the technology can work."

Passengers on some Cathay Pacific and Emirates flights will be invited to join the trial when they check in by scanning their passport and right index fingerprint into the miSense kiosk.

This information becomes the passenger's secure "virtual key" which will give them access to security control and aircraft boarding using just their fingerprint.
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Looks like they’ll resorted to anything to get hold of your fingerprints. What happens to them after they’ve been scanned?

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Home Office officials said yesterday that fingerprints taken from drivers would not be recorded and would only be checked against those of criminals and suspects which are already stored on the national computer.


Call me cynical but they might mean that the fingerprints TAKEN are not stored but the compressed and transmitted version of the print may still be stored on the central computer.

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At present about 60 per cent of drivers stopped do not give their true identity.


May include all those that are not asked for identity! I have twice been in a car that has been stopped for faulty lights and once in a car "similar" to one they were looking for. Identity was not requested on any of these occaisions.
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I have a friend who was arrested on a bogus charge - the whole process is to get you on the database. the CPS rule no further action because as the duty solicitor said 'no crime has been committed'. however, they wont delete his records.

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But still nobody worries that, after a beath-test, the police carefully package the mouthpiece in an evidence bag.....

They probably don't check for dna and then check for matches....the same as they don't store the fingerprints.

And with more-and-more people being convicted of offences committed 20+ years ago you'd think people would wonder about the accuracy of the evidence.

Oh well, not to worry.
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