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Our SCP friend has no hope of supporting the claim that speed cameras reduce the number of accidents, so opted to go for the severity argument instead.

Point taken, but Wiltshire & Swindon SCP have not published details of total number of accidents vs number of KSI accidents before and after camera deployment. Without this, the lower speeds=lower accident severity (on motorways) argument cannot be won or lost.

They have not offered proof of less accidents and they have not proved lower accident severity. They have not even demonstrated that people have actually slowed down.

If the SCPs want support from the more intelligent half of the Public for motorway speed cameras, they're going to have to do better than this....

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That's really rich, coming from you.
I would normally be a lot more scathing than that, but Paul has strict rules about ad hominem attacks.



I asked you for a link to that report, but I see none is forthcoming.
What are you so scared of?



You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
Show me any model which shows any quantifiable relationship between free travelling speed and impact speed. You can't, can you?

BTW As you're now speaking about energy imparted, here's a little quiz for you:

A car hits a pedestrian without braking. What proportion of the car's kinetic energy is dissipated by the pedestrian?
Clue: the car is hardly slowed at all by the collision, so it has almost the same amount of kinetic energy after the collision as before.

Cheers
Peter

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Only when ideology, prejudice and dogma are set aside does the truth emerge - Kepler

I could make an exception...

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Paul Smith
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Or even that, out of something like 300,000 accidents we only have something like 3,000 fatalities.

If there was any proportionality whatsoever between free travelling speed and impact speed then we'd have a lot more than 1% fatalities.

Cheers
Peter

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Only when ideology, prejudice and dogma are set aside does the truth emerge - Kepler