Safe Speed Forums

Well, after about 25 reboots, two reloads of scanner software and reseating the memory in the PC, and still getting BSOD, I think it would have been quicker to drive this paper to Scotland!

Sorry, Paul - I'll take it in to work in the morning and post it to you. You should have it Saturday. In case of smudging I'll also put you a decent photocopy in with it.

Equally they CANNOT continue as is. They are rapidly finding that they are caught between a rock and a hard place. Sooner or later they will have to move.

I've seen LTI2020 slip with my own eyes. There's no room for doubt. It happens. The longer they persist in claiming that it can't happen the more they weaken the rule of law. One critical mechanism of this weakening is the load on the courts. With more and more people rejecting fixed penalties that courts will soon saturate.



Of course they will.

But I think the silver lining is that the individuals forcing the decisions (MPs, senior Home Office personnel) can spin it as doing the right thing and blame their predecessors for the problems. It's easy to fall into the trap of thinking of 'government' as a body with common aims, but the reality is that government is composed of many individuals with strong personal agendas working within a framework.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

The Mail has different editions in different parts of the UK AND two versions printed in France.
There are also differences in early and late editions as editorial priorities change.

I fear Malcolm is right. I doubt there will ever be a day when the Govt. ADMIT the machine was wrong.

More likely would be a gradual phasing in of other schemes "to tackle problems which have hither to gone unaddressed, now that speed cameras have done the donkey work, and reduced accidents to a level where the new measures become more effective"
... or gobbledygook along similar lines, while the camera is slowly replaced with some new technology put to equally stupid use!

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

Hopefully the new "technology" will be wearing a police uniform , be trained to use a vehicle to a high degree of competance , be trained in applying motoring laws to the benefit of the motoring public and be human.It will also be trained to educate the public and attempt to improve the general standard of driver knowledge, by example and influence
This "new technology" will attempt to redress the effects of negative police and government idocy over the past few years by reminding drivers of the standards required to decrease accidents on British road, in the very last resort by issuing a penalty notice. Such issue will be regarded as a failing of the new order and the said driver will be required to undertake remedial training.

There are other chinks in the armour to attack. The cps and the courts and the county councils all make up the partnerships too. They must play a part in this game and must account for thier actions or inactions. This witholding of video tapes is such a joined up effort , questions must be asked.

Has brunstom jumped at the right time? Is he getting worried where this is leading? Has the FOI act opend too many tins of worms...

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

If you KNOW you were speeding, admit it a.s.a.p. and tell the court how sorry/ashamed/repentant you are.
If there is ANY doubt, plead not guilty and excercise your right to see ALL the evidence- photos, video footage etc. Stick to your guns and DON'T be put off by threatening noises. There has now been so much media exposure of the problems with this gun that a prosecution based mostly/solely on readings from one is on seriously shaky ground.