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Today I drove from Sherborne to Poole to Wimborne to Weymouth to Midsomer Norton to Sherborne, doing on average about an hour's work at each point. How would it be more "economic" if this had taken two days rather than one?

Oh, and I love "furious" cycling - I get a mental image of some really angry cyclists.....

I was going to say that Although I think the M275 has a 50mph speed limit now. (welcome to portsmouth)
Same with all natioal speed limit roads.

I think this might be a good idea.
Most people would drive illegally most of the time and it would make everyone realise how stupid speed limits are.

I thought cyclists could be done for speeding? Why not?

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Andrew.

HMMM- those bits in the "Road Safety Bill" --about graduated penalties --aren't the speeds over in MPH.
More leglislation apart from that to make everything into KPH .
Then , the HIGHWAY Code

Then - simple enough for the roads controlled by the HA- they know the speeds, but those set by LA - a jungle.


Nick Freeman (?) must be hoping for it ---thats his next house ,car and pension set up nicely.

Most motorways don't have 70 signs though, they have NSL signs.

Part of me thinks let's do it.

See what happens.

It will damage the economy because goods will cost more.
If a HGV has to stay on the road longer, the driver has to be paid more; he has to have more breaks. Certain foods may be difficult to deliver in fresh condition, so shelf life is reduced.

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She proposed having NSL set at 80kph (50mph)

Can't rememer where --but i'm certain i've seen signs on a Motorway - possibly somewhere like the bottom end of the M1 or possibly on a DC in the midlands.Know it was on a road subject to NSL ,and i'd passed a NSL sign.This sign was sort of planked in the middle of nowhere.

Motorways in Scotland tend to have signs at the entrance to the motorway.

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Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

for starters, how many cyclists do you know who can manage 35mph without a very large hill to help them?
Besides we don't know how fast we're going because we don't have speedos - which is obviously highly dangerous as we have no way of judging a safe speed to ride at.

I saw some on a dc somewhere near Bristol last weekend, probably there to balance the 40 signs that covered most of the dc in question (yet more non-existant roadworks)

Aye.. but...

we can do for "furious pedalling", inconsiderate cycling and one or two other "disorder" charges.

For those sensitive souls who lurk on here and who appear a little "paranoid" .. we are not talking about the collective of competent - but that same bunch of wrong'uns who are lethal on foot, lethal on a bicycle, letha;l and stupid o on a motor bike and doiwnright dangerous in a car :rolleyes:

But yep.. the obsession with speed and cutting speed limits is not based on common sense - nor is it based on the figures the police actually supply to the Office of National Statistics either.

I doubt whether Ms Nia Griffith of Wales has thought this through.

Traffic jams themselves cause more pollution than faster flowing traffic and guzzle more fuel as well.

This morning for example - was stuck behind a steam roller at 25 mph in a 50 mph zone and then behind a milk float at 20 mph in a 40 mph zone. Traffic built up behind these vehicles pretty quickly and led to congestion in the area for a while and eased almost as quickly once these very slow moving vehicles turned off to the industrial zone for the former and the residential for the milk float. But you could certainly smell the staler air in the jam which dissipated once the traffic was moving again. :rolleyes:

If we went "metric" - EU law would require some harmonisation with the main land continent and I rather think EU national limits - ironically 10 mph FASTER on motorway throughout would be adopted as most "economic"

But then woolly mindedness? I think one must think par for the course from Labour Grauniad readers and Lib Dem wannabes!

Real cause of pollution cheap flights. Mad Doc apparently proven right! - based on remark made in a post he made a while ago!

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A SMILE is a curve that sets everything straight (P Diller).

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Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon - but driving with a smile and a COAST calm mind.

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There's no 20mph speed limits around here but I dare say I could have a good go at exceding them on a bike.


Oh my god, think of the children!

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Andrew.

I regularly exceed 20mph but I don't know that I'd want to do it in a 20mph zone (at least one that's been properly set).

Oh I think you can "feel" the speed. I reckon I can sustain a decent 20 - to 30 mph overall now

Been in training re the "epic" and some of us are setting off tomorow with rest following on over weekend.

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Take with a chuckle or a grain of salt
Drive without COAST and it's all your own fault!

A SMILE is a curve that sets everything straight (P Diller).

A Smiley Per post
FINES USfor our COAST!

Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon - but driving with a smile and a COAST calm mind.

Don't reccomend much over 35 (as per my speedo on my ancient heap,in my young days) ---it once told me i was doing 45 - down hill on an old Raleigh tourer (with folllowing wind, and following brown trail --but thats another story)(But i now know i was perfectly safe in spite of all, because i was not exceeding the NSL -70 in those days on a SC--WISH I HAD KNOWN , I COULD HAVE KEPT THE PANTS CLEAN)

Ah I wasn't thinking about 20mph zones as they require an obstacle course.
Although Poole quay has a pointless 20mph zone with no obstacle course, and they love bicycles there. I think I saw 4 last time I went down there.

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Andrew.

The old style Quay(pier) made of wooden sleepers sorted them out - 2 inch gap between them --or it was in my home village.--Allright going accross them - turn right - woops

Come on now, we all know it's true. Our beloved CSCP leader informed us on his now defunct forum that you can't work out if your speed is safe unless you know it's numerical value. He couldn't have been wrong. Could he?


Edit: I've just retrieved a couple of pages I saved from the CSCP forum and I can't stop laughing. Who do you think came up with these gems?

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did someone purportedly in charge of "road safety" really utter that rubbish?

Oh yes.

Most of them were captured together for posterity in a thread entitled The World according to Steve Callaghan

It's a crazy old world, after all.

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