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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 07:03 
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graball wrote:
So IF the government are telling us the truth(that will be a first) and rural roads are so dangerous then why are casualties in Shropshire so low?
virtually 90% of it's roads are rural , with a NSL on most (except for the past 12 months whenthey started butchering them)....If rural roads are so dangerous (and Shropshire used to be the largest inland county once) why are we not in a bloodbath????



Low traffic density?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 08:42 
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In that case then , it's not high speeds that kill, rural roads with lots of nasty trees just waiting to jump in front of you, but traffic density that kills?

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graball wrote:
In that case then , it's not high speeds that kill, rural roads with lots of nasty trees just waiting to jump in front of you, but traffic density that kills?


Could it be high speed in dense traffic that is the killer?

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Could it be high speed in dense traffic that is the killer?



That's just going down the government's propoganda line.

As it happens the two main rural roads near me, that do seem to be in the news a lot for road deaths, are the busiest roads and they seem to carry a lot of HGVs, approx 40% of the traffic during "daytime hours" (after 9am and before 5pm). A lot of accidents do involve lorries (I'm assuming that this is because of the large number of them and the fact that the average lorry is twice as long as a car so you probably have more chance of hitting a lorry than a car) BUT the main point here is that, because of the large number of HGVs on these two busy trunk roads, is that it is rarely possible to travel far, in excess of 40MPH.

So mr Fitzpatrick, why are some of the most dangerous roads that I know of, rarely travelled at in excess of 40MPH and HOW is dropping the NSL to 50MPH going to reduce accidents on these roads?

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graball wrote:
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Could it be high speed in dense traffic that is the killer?



That's just going down the government's propoganda line.


God forbid! I am just throwing out suggestions which you are able to rebut to my satisfaction :)

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Wierdly, the petition in my sig, which had pretty much flatlined at 35,500 has suddenly jumped by 2000 in a couple of days. Someone somewhere has picked up on it....


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