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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 09:25 
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Bit of old news.

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Dangerous roads to get ratings

ROADS are to be given a star rating indicating how dangerous they can be in the event of an accident.

A survey is to be carried out to assess the likelihood of fatal and serious injuries when accidents occur on many of the UK's busiest inter-urban roads.

More than 4,000 miles of roads are being analysed in a cross-Europe scheme similar to the European New Car Assessment Programme (Euro NCAP) which gives car models star ratings for protection levels to occupants and pedestrians in the event of a crash.

In the car assessment, the "safest" cars get five stars. In the road assessment, if a road gets four stars that means that it has the least risk to road users, with one star, or no stars, indicating the most "dangerous" roads.

In deciding a road's star rating, the road surveyors will consider three main types of accident:

* Head-on crashes - how well is traffic separated and what disincentives to over-taking along dangerous stretches of road are there?

* Run-off crashes - how well are drivers protected against hitting rigid poles, signs, lampposts and trees or going down embankments if they leave the road?

* Junction crashes - to what extent could a junction layout or the frequency of turnings contribute towards accidents?

The assessment is being carried out by a team from the German motoring organisation ADAC, co-funded by the AA Motoring Trust and the Highways Agency, with technical support from the UK's Transport Research Laboratory and Swedish consultants SWECO.

Bert Morris, director of the AA Motoring Trust, said: "We aim to find out if drivers in cars with (Euro NCAP) five-star protection are running the gauntlet on roads with less than four stars.

"Just as the star-rating system for car crash protection has inspired manufacturers to transform the safety features of cars in the UK, so the road assessment programme will encourage road authorities to innovate and upgrade safety features on many of Britain's persistently lethal roads."

He went on: "The primary function of the Road Protection Scoring (RPS) is not to safeguard extreme drivers who go hell for leather regardless of conditions, although their chances of survival will be enhanced by subsequent improvements.

"The scheme sets the benchmark at the level of average drivers who follow the rules of the road but make mistakes, perhaps because of bad weather or through not knowing the route. RPS shows how well a road will 'forgive' or how badly it will punish an ordinary driver's error."

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The obvious thing that will happen with this is that people will go out to see just how dangerous a particular road is ...

Still if it "names and shames" particular local authorities then it's OK, I suppose. Bit tough if you are responsible for rural Wales and if anyone comes off the road on your patch they hurtle 200ft down a cliff.

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There are no such things as 'Dangerous Roads', only dangerous or incompetent drivers :roll:


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Cooperman wrote:
There are no such things as 'Dangerous Roads', only dangerous or incompetent drivers :roll:

I regard that as one of the most unhelpful sayings ever uttered on the subject of road safety.

So why do some roads have far higher accident rates than others for the same volume of traffic? Is there something in the local air that causes people to take leave of their senses?

It should be obvious that appropriate engineering measures can, in many cases, greatly improve the accident rate of roads.

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PeterE wrote:
Cooperman wrote:
There are no such things as 'Dangerous Roads', only dangerous or incompetent drivers :roll:

I regard that as one of the most unhelpful sayings ever uttered on the subject of road safety.


I agree and I don't agree with both of you. It's a matter of perspective.

From the DRIVER'S point of view, his responsibility is absolute. There are no dangerous roads and he must always guard against making errors.

From the TRAFFIC ENGINEER'S point of view some roads or places are FAR more dangerous than others. Statistics prove the point clearly. He must allocate scare resources where they will do the most good.

Both perspectives are important and valid.

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Not a bad idea - get rid of the SCP "safety notices"--"x number of people injured" - and return to the old style of road signs- informing drivers of the road conditions - if necessary place a large warning sign at the start of the road - but unfortunately we'll probably see places where it was safe to overtake comeing under the HSE mantle of "if we say it's safe to overtake, and someone gets hurt , can we be sued??"---like where cameras are erected on(what used to be ) good overtaking places turning them into suicide spots ---" Head-on crashes - how well is traffic separated and what disincentives to over-taking along dangerous stretches of road are there? "---

Perhaps compiling a table of roads "failing to come up to standard" might be more appropriate and allocating the LA the cash to rectify through engineering means,rather than telling us what we already know


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