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I saw that, seems a bit of a non-story to me:

"This just in - typist makes mistake, adds extra zero"

That's not the point. If the SCPs are enforcing the law then they should be precise about it. If its wrong then sorry, no cigar.

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420mph in a 30mph zone - at least it proves that speed doesn't kill

Yes, I agree completely, it's unlikely that they'll secure a conviction on this occasion, and rightly so!

All I'm saying is that it's hardly newsworthy. How many bureaucratic errors to scameraships make that result in the cases being dropped? PePiPoo gives a good idea! They don't really care, they have such volume of fines to collect that they aren't gonna lose sleep over a few missed opportunities (equal justice for all anyone?).

Equally, they're not gonna see their entire existence scrapped purely because one of their typists added an extra zero to 42mph to make it implausible!

These cases as a whole, and their 'scattergun' approach to enforecement would be more newsworthy. If they are so adamant that these speeding drivers are the bane of road safety to the degree they claim, then surely they should have extra checks and balances to make sure all procedures are followed and correct, send NIPs etc by recorded delivery, and pusue every case as far as they possibly can, the cost of all to their overly bloated budgets be damned!

If however they are just after a quick buck from motorists, well....they might hurredly type as many penalty notices as they can, resulting in ridiculous errors such as this that would be picked up by a simple proofread; they would not send all documentation by recorded delivery, to ensure they spend as little as possible on stamps, and they would drop cases that present even the slightest chance of them losing, in order to preserve funds to tart up their offices and mount media campaigns in an attempt to justfiy their existence!

Which route......

Trouble is, an error like adding an extra zero is obvious. Its very easy to mistype any combination of numbers though. For instance, 33 could very easily be typed as 36...

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Well quite! Which is why every official document they produce should be proof-read, and while they are at it they can check the road markings on the photos as well, to ensure the readings are correct. After all, why would they want to cut any corners that could risk allowing these heinous felons who are killing billions on our roads every day to escape on a technicality!

Quite.

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It's good that incidents like these receive national publicity - it can only help to undermine public confidence in the entire scam system

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If it was me, I would have let it go to court, so I could claim costs

Are there any speed registration devices type approved for over 155MPH?

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Oh definately the more of these that hit the press the better.

Cold hard facts may help us win the arguement but theres nothing wrong with a big dollop of ridicule every so often.

Remember that Gwent are the ones who so fit to take on Nick Freeman in a very public manner, whats good for the goose.......

First heard about this on the radio (BBC) last night. although the scameras accepted that there had been an error by a member of staff the driver should still pay up as there was no fault with respect to the camera.

If they accept that this was an error somewhere in the system but not of course with their camera does that then not call all of their evidence into question leaving grounds for reasonable doubt as to the validity of their entire case which they should have difficulity now proving beyond all reasonable doubt. If only Nick Freeman could get hold of this case.

Should he not have played the waiting game then when they find the error it's too late?

Of course the darned things should be proof read before they go out. If they have to have an "eye" for detail and an "eye to form an opinion of speed" - then this same attention to detail matters when sending out a form.

We had the Pug at 406 mph .. in which it seems the typist typed in the model instead of the speed and the vintage Austin Maestro back in 2003 which pinged a cam at an alleged 460 mph.

Now there is another aspect to this ....

I am sure that if my admin staff typed on medical notes that the patient required 100 ml instead of 10 ml of the medicine prescribed - I'd be hauled up on a disciplinary myself for not checking the notes when I signed them off for treatment.

It matters and it matters to the public that the paperwork is at least correct - else how can we be sure all that attention to detail is applied when checking that photo

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Absolutely spot on, a Doctor could be struck off for a mistake of this magnitude, a pratnership operative will probably get a bonus and promoted.

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re my posting in another thread.

If they expect me to drive at 99.6% accuracy or lose my licence in a year then I would expect them to operate at at least the same with respect to their process effectiveness.

Sadly, and only due to the vast volume of NIPs they are sending out, I'd suspect that their number of errors could be quite high and still maintain this %age of accuracy!

I'd love to see the figures though.

Oh absolutely!

Unfortunately, theres the liklihood that a large proprtion of the errors remain either undetected or unreported.

Law abiding Johnny Average receives an official looking NIP, he has faith in the system (rightly or wrongly), and he just pays up, possibly without even reading the details carefully, for the sake of a quiet life. Alternatively, Mr Non-747-pilot Taxi-driver spots an extra zero (only speculation that this was the error of course) and decides to argue the toss when perhaps, being pinged speeding at 42mph in a 30mph area, he should hold his hands up to a fair cop. I'm not judging he shouldn't argue the toss of course, it could be one or more of any number of possible errors on their part, but that if they actually bothered to get things right then they wouldn't cast such doubt on their abilities to do anything right, other than rake in cash from motorists under the threat of the risk of higher costs, more points and more inconvenience!