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Brunstrom in hot water again over ‘offensive remarks’ made to member of the public
By Steve Farrell

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21 February 2008 15:19


North Wales chief constable Richard Brunstrom is in hot water with the Independent Police Complains Commission again – this time over ‘offensive remarks’ made to a member of the public.

The IPCC has instructed the North Wales Police Authority to take action over comments made by Brunstrom to Idris Francis, who spent years challenging a speeding case on a point of law.

Responding to a complaint from Francis that Brunstrom had used ‘misleading’ road casualty figures, the chief constable wrote: 'The world would be a much better place if people like you a) obeyed the law and b) owned up when caught breaking it. Your attempt to thwart justice is dishonourable and sets a pathetic example to younger drivers. You should be ashamed of yourself.

'Disappointingly I see no sign that you are. I do not intend to get into a pointless argument with you about collision and casualty statistics - your behaviour as a convicted offender, apparently in denial, renders you an irrelevance to serious debate on the issue.'

Francis complained to the IPCC that Brunstrom's reply was 'personally offensive and irrelevant'. The IPCC said Francis supplied supporting documents 'in order to demonstrate Mr Brunstrom's offensive remarks'.

The Commission ruled: ‘This complaint could be categorised as a complaint under the category “Incivility, impoliteness and intolerance”, whereby a person serving with the police should treat members of the public and colleagues with courtesy and respect, avoiding abusive or deriding attitudes or behaviour.

'In particular they must avoid: favouritism of an individual or group; all forms of victimisation or unreasonable discrimination. As a result I am of the opinion that this part of the complaint should be recorded as such and dealt with accordingly.'

Under ‘Actions actions required of the force/authority’ the ruling lists: ‘That the Police Authority records the complaint regarding “offensive remarks” as a complaint and that the matters are dealt with accordingly.’

Francis said: “I complained to Brunstrom last autumn. All I got back was abuse, with no comment whatever on the figures.”

North Wales Police made no immediate comment.

Brunstrom’s conduct was investigated by the IPCC last year after he used images of a decapitated motorcyclist to launch a road safety campaign without permission of the dead rider’s family. The chief constable was later cleared of misconduct.


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I’ll bet that still nothing will happen to him, he’s part of the establishment that are in exactly the same frame of mind when it comes to the people of this country receiving proper justice. :(

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What, exactly, IS the drug of choice of Blunderstorm?

Or is he just high on sniffing his own ego? :roll:

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How he hasn't been sacked yet is beyond me?

Does his force have to actually start killing civilians before anyone will take Brunstrom out of the service and give him a severe verbal kicking?


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Well done Idris....

He above all should know, if you wouldn't be able to say it in court you shouldn't say it in a letter. especially in HIS position. IMO he displays the arrogance of a bully who thinks that he can say what he likes because he's bigger than you.

NOT really Chief Constable material...................IMO (of course) :)


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Unfortunately, we are just mere peasants to be trampled on by the new diactaorships of police, politicians, their quangos, and bandwagon groups supporting the latest faze that costs us more and maintains control of us.

No democracy here today its do as we say or we will fine you.


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Do you know Dixie, your comment is very true IMO and is a very good reason why "Chief Constables" should be "Elected" by the People rather than "Appointed" by Politicians........

If a Chief Constable is appointed by Politicians, he is "bound" to show allegence to his: "Political Masters" wishes..............things like chasing motorists more than 3mph over the limit for the collection of cash revenue for the Government whilst at the same time leaving Drug dealers, Killers, Burglars, Thugs and Feral kids alone....

However, If Elected by the the People of his area, he would be more inclined to confront the real concerns of the local populace and their priorities!....

Because if he didn't....He'd be OUT next time!


GRRrr!........ :roll:


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Draco. Re: your first comment aboutt bullying. Hammer. Nail. Head. :D


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